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From: "Min Hu (Connor)" <humin29@huawei.com>
To: "Sanford, Robert" <rsanford@akamai.com>,
	Robert Sanford <rsanford2@gmail.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "chas3@att.com" <chas3@att.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] net/bonding: change mbuf pool and ring allocation
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:01:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6afa9788-b349-d2b9-c869-d258b4a6d46f@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8C168DC6-124B-42B4-A766-11A6FA898256@akamai.com>

Hi, Sanford,

在 2021/12/21 0:47, Sanford, Robert 写道:
> Hello Connor,
> 
> Please see responses inline.
> 
> On 12/17/21, 10:44 PM, "Min Hu (Connor)" <humin29@huawei.com> wrote:
> 
>>> When the number of used tx-descs (0..255) + number of mbufs in the
>>> cache (0..47) reaches 257, then allocation fails.
>>>
>>> If I understand the LACP tx-burst code correctly, it would be
>>> worse if nb_tx_queues > 1, because (assuming multiple tx-cores)
>>> any queue/lcore could xmit an LACPDU. Thus, up to nb_tx_queues *
>>> 47 mbufs could be cached, and not accessible from tx_machine().
>>>
>>> You would not see this problem if the app xmits other (non-LACP)
>>> mbufs on a regular basis, to expedite the clean-up of tx-descs
>>> including LACPDU mbufs (unless nb_tx_queues tx-core caches
>>> could hold all LACPDU mbufs).
>>>
>> I think, we could not see this problem only because the mempool can
>> offer much more mbufs than cache size on no-LACP circumstance.
>>
>>> If we make mempool's cache size 0, then allocation will not fail.
>> How about enlarge the size of mempool, i.e., up to 4096 ? I think
>> it can also avoid this bug.
>>>
>>> A mempool cache for LACPDUs does not offer much additional speed:
>>> during alloc, the intr thread does not have default mempool caches
>> Why? as I know, all the core has its own default mempool caches ?
> 
> These are private mbuf pools that we use *only* for LACPDUs, *one*
> mbuf per second, at most. (When LACP link peer selects long timeouts,
> we get/put one mbuf every 30 seconds.)
> 
> There is *NO* benefit for the consumer thread (interrupt thread
> executing tx_machine()) to have caches on per-slave LACPDU pools.
> The interrupt thread is a control thread, i.e., a non-EAL thread.
> Its lcore_id is LCORE_ID_ANY, so it has no "default cache" in any
> mempool.
Well, sorry, I forgot that interrupt thread is non-EAL thread.
> 
> There is little or no benefit for active data-plane threads to have
> caches on per-slave LACPDU pools, because on each pool, the producer
> thread puts back, at most, one mbuf per second. There is not much
> contention with the consumer (interrupt thread).
> 
> I contend that caches are not necessary for these private LACPDU
I agree with you.
> mbuf pools, but just waste RAM and CPU-cache. If we still insist
> on creating them *with* caches, then we should add at least
> (cache-size x 1.5 x nb-tx-queues) mbufs per pool.
> 
>   
>>> Q: Why reserve one additional slot in the rx and tx rings?
>>>
>>> A: rte_ring_create() requires the ring size N, to be a power of 2,
>>> but it can only store N-1 items. Thus, if we want to store X items,
>> Hi, Robert, could you describe it for me?
>> I cannot understand why it
>> "only store N -1 items". I check the source code, It writes:
>> "The real usable ring size is *count-1* instead of *count* to
>> differentiate a free ring from an empty ring."
>> But I still can not get what it wrote.
> 
> I believe there is a mistake in the ring comments (in 3 places).
> It would be better if they replace "free" with "full":
> "... to differentiate a *full* ring from an empty ring."
> 
Well, I still can not understand it. I think the ring size is N, it
should store N items, why "N - 1" items.?
Hope for your description, thanks.

> 
>>> we need to ask for (at least) X+1. Original code fails when the real
>>> desired size is a power of 2, because in such a case, align32pow2
>>> does not round up.
>>>
>>> For example, say we want a ring to hold 4:
>>>
>>>       rte_ring_create(... rte_align32pow2(4) ...)
>>>
>>> rte_align32pow2(4) returns 4, and we end up with a ring that only
>>> stores 3 items.
>>>
>>>       rte_ring_create(... rte_align32pow2(4+1) ...)
>>>
>>> rte_align32pow2(5) returns 8, and we end up with a ring that
>>> stores up to 7 items, more than we need, but acceptable.
>> To fix the bug, how about just setting the flags "RING_F_EXACT_SZ"
> 
> Yes, this is a good idea. I will look for examples or test code that
> use this flag.
Yes, if fixed, ILGM.
> 
>   --
> Regards,
> Robert Sanford
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-21  2:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-15 18:19 [PATCH 0/7] net/bonding: fixes and LACP short timeout Robert Sanford
2021-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 1/7] net/bonding: fix typos and whitespace Robert Sanford
2021-12-21 19:57   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] net/bonding: fixes and LACP short timeout Robert Sanford
2021-12-21 19:57     ` [PATCH v2 1/8] net/bonding: fix typos and whitespace Robert Sanford
2022-02-04 15:06       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-12-21 19:57     ` [PATCH v2 2/8] net/bonding: fix bonded dev configuring slave dev Robert Sanford
2021-12-21 19:57     ` [PATCH v2 3/8] net/bonding: change mbuf pool and ring creation Robert Sanford
2021-12-21 19:57     ` [PATCH v2 4/8] net/bonding: support enabling LACP short timeout Robert Sanford
2022-02-04 14:46       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-12-21 19:57     ` [PATCH v2 5/8] net/bonding: add bond_8023ad and bond_alb to doc Robert Sanford
2022-02-04 14:48       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-12-21 19:57     ` [PATCH v2 6/8] remove self from timers maintainers Robert Sanford
2022-03-08 23:26       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-12-21 19:57     ` [PATCH v2 7/8] net/ring: add promisc and all-MC stubs Robert Sanford
2022-02-04 14:36       ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-02-04 14:49         ` Bruce Richardson
2022-02-11 19:57           ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-12-21 19:57     ` [PATCH v2 8/8] net/bonding: add LACP short timeout tests Robert Sanford
2022-02-04 14:49       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-12-22  3:27     ` [PATCH v2 0/8] net/bonding: fixes and LACP short timeout Min Hu (Connor)
2022-01-11 16:41     ` Kevin Traynor
2022-02-04 15:09     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 2/7] net/bonding: fix bonded dev configuring slave dev Robert Sanford
2021-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 3/7] net/bonding: change mbuf pool and ring allocation Robert Sanford
2021-12-16  8:59   ` Min Hu (Connor)
2021-12-17 19:49     ` Sanford, Robert
2021-12-18  3:44       ` Min Hu (Connor)
2021-12-20 16:47         ` Sanford, Robert
2021-12-21  2:01           ` Min Hu (Connor) [this message]
2021-12-21 15:31             ` Sanford, Robert
2021-12-22  3:25               ` Min Hu (Connor)
2021-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 4/7] net/bonding: support enabling LACP short timeout Robert Sanford
2021-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 5/7] net/bonding: add LACP short timeout to tests Robert Sanford
2021-12-15 18:20 ` [PATCH 6/7] net/bonding: add bond_8023ad and bond_alb to doc Robert Sanford
2021-12-15 18:20 ` [PATCH 7/7] Remove self from Timers maintainers Robert Sanford

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