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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>
To: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>,
	Dariusz Sosnowski <dsosnowski@nvidia.com>,
	"NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 02:07:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a6f760c-8bc7-46cd-92e0-a8af66114e2d@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3833d9270fba43af9d17765056911940@huawei.com>

On 10/8/2024 6:21 PM, Konstantin Ananyev wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>>> We have been working on optimizing the latency of calls to
>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start(), on ports spawned by mlx5 PMD. Most of the work
>>>>>> requires changes in the implementation of
>>>>>> .dev_start() PMD callback, but I also wanted to start a discussion
>>>>>> regarding configuration restore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start() does a few things on top of calling .dev_start() callback:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Before calling it:
>>>>>>     - eth_dev_mac_restore() - if device supports
>>>>>> RTE_ETH_DEV_NOLIVE_MAC_ADDR;
>>>>>> - After calling it:
>>>>>>     - eth_dev_mac_restore() - if device does not support
>>>>> RTE_ETH_DEV_NOLIVE_MAC_ADDR;
>>>>>>     - restore promiscuous config
>>>>>>     - restore all multicast config
>>>>>>
>>>>>> eth_dev_mac_restore() iterates over all known MAC addresses - stored
>>>>>> in rte_eth_dev_data.mac_addrs array - and calls
>>>>>> .mac_addr_set() and .mac_addr_add() callbacks to apply these MAC addresses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Promiscuous config restore checks if promiscuous mode is enabled or
>>>>>> not, and calls .promiscuous_enable() or .promiscuous_disable() callback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All multicast config restore checks if all multicast mode is enabled
>>>>>> or not, and calls .allmulticast_enable() or .allmulticast_disable() callback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Callbacks are called directly in all of these cases, to bypass the
>>>>>> checks for applying the same configuration, which exist in relevant APIs.
>>>>>> Checks are bypassed to force drivers to reapply the configuration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's consider what happens in the following sequence of API calls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. rte_eth_dev_configure()
>>>>>> 2. rte_eth_tx_queue_setup()
>>>>>> 3. rte_eth_rx_queue_setup()
>>>>>> 4. rte_eth_promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>>     - Stores promiscuous state in dev->data->promiscuous 5.
>>>>>> rte_eth_allmulticast_enable()
>>>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
>>>>>>     - Stores allmulticast state in dev->data->allmulticast 6.
>>>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
>>>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
>>>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
>>>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even though all configuration is available in dev->data after step 5,
>>>>>> library forces reapplying this configuration in step 6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In mlx5 PMD case all relevant callbacks require communication with the
>>>>>> kernel driver, to configure the device (mlx5 PMD must create/destroy
>>>>>> new kernel flow rules and/or change netdev config).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mlx5 PMD handles applying all configuration in .dev_start(), so the
>>>>>> following forced callbacks force additional communication with the kernel. The
>>>>> same configuration is applied multiple times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an optimization, mlx5 PMD could check if a given configuration was
>>>>>> applied, but this would duplicate the functionality of the library
>>>>>> (for example rte_eth_promiscuous_enable() does not call the driver if
>>>>>> dev->data->promiscuous is set).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question: Since all of the configuration is available before
>>>>>> .dev_start() callback is called, why ethdev library does not expect .dev_start() to
>>>>> take this configuration into account?
>>>>>> In other words, why library has to reapply the configuration?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could not find any particular reason why configuration restore
>>>>>> exists as part of the process (it was in the initial DPDK commit).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My assumption is .dev_stop() cause these values reset in some devices, so
>>>>> .dev_start() restores them back.
>>>>> @Bruce or @Konstantin may remember the history.
>>>
>>> Yep, as I remember, at least some Intel PMDs calling hw_reset() ad dec_stop() and
>>> even dev_start() to make sure that HW is in a clean (known) state.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I agree this is device specific behavior, and can be managed by what device
>>>>> requires.
>>>
>>> Probably yes.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The patches included in this RFC, propose a mechanism which would help
>>>>>> with managing which drivers rely on forceful configuration restore.
>>>>>> Drivers could advertise if forceful configuration restore is needed
>>>>>> through `RTE_ETH_DEV_*_FORCE_RESTORE` device flag. If this flag is
>>>>>> set, then the driver in question requires ethdev to forcefully restore
>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK to use flag for it, but not sure about using 'dev_info->dev_flags'
>>>>> (RTE_ETH_DEV_*) for this, as this flag is shared with user and this is all dpdk
>>>>> internal.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about to have a dedicated flag for it? We can have a dedicated set of flag
>>>>> values for restore.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed. What do you think about the following?
>>>
>>> Instead of exposing that, can we probably make it transparent to the user
>>> and probably ethdev layer too?
>>>
>>
>> +1 to make it transparent to user, but not sure if we can make it
>> transparent to ethdev layer.
> 
> Just to be clear:
> Let say, using example from above: 
> 
>  rte_eth_dev_start()
>      - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
>      - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
>      - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>      - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
> 
> We probably can introduce ethdev internal function (still visible to PMDs)
> that would do last 3 steps:
> ethdev_replay_user_conf(...)
>      - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
>      - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>      - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable() 
> 
> And let PMD itself to decide does it needs to call it at dev_start() or not.
> So it will become:
> rte_eth_dev_start()
>      - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
> 	-Call ethdev_replay_user_conf(.)
>      		- Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
>      		- Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>      		-Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
> 
> For PMDs that do need to restore user provided config
> And 
> rte_eth_dev_start()
>      - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
> 
> For those who do not.
> 

OK, got it what you mean.
Pushing restore functionality to PMDs works, but this may be doing
redundant work on each PMD.

Instead Dariusz suggests PMD to provide a flag to ehtdev to what to
restore and common code in ethdev does the work.
My below dedicated data struct comment is to have this flag in a new
struct, overall like following:

rte_eth_dev_start()
   - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
   - Call dev->dev_ops->get_restore_flags(ethdev, RTE_ETH_START, &flags)
   - if (flags & MAC) dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set()
   - if (flags & PROMISC) dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
   - ...

So PMDs only will provide what to restore with an internal API and
common ethdev layer will restore it.
If no restore required PMD may not implement .get_restore_flags() at all.

Additionally, RTE_ETH_START, RTE_ETH_RESET etc flag can be provided to
internal API to get what to restore in different states...

>> Suggested 'internal_flag' in "struct rte_eth_dev_data" can be confusing
>> and open to interpretation what to use it for and by time become source
>> of defect.
> 
> Yes, same thoughts.
> 
>> Instead what do you think to have a separate, dedicated data struct for it?
> 
> Hmm... not sure I understood you here...
> 
>>
>>> Might be we can move this restoration code into the new ethdev helper function,(ethdevd_user_config_restore()  or so)
>>> that PMD can invoke during its dev_start() if needed?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_PROMISC_FORCE_RESTORE RTE_BIT32(0)
>>>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_ALLMULTI_FORCE_RESTORE RTE_BIT32(1)
>>>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_MAC_ADDR_FORCE_RESTORE RTE_BIT32(2)
>>>>
>>>> struct rte_eth_dev_data {
>>>> 	/* snip */
>>>>
>>>> 	uint32_t dev_flags;
>>>>
>>>> 	/**
>>>> 	 * Internal device capabilities, used only by ethdev library.
>>>> 	 * Certain functionalities provided by the library might enabled/disabled,
>>>> 	 * based on driver exposing certain capabilities.
>>>> 	 */
>>>> 	uint32_t internal_flags;
>>>>
>>>> 	/* snip */
>>>> };
>>>>
>>>>> Also perhaps we have go into details what needs to be restored after 'stop' and
>>>>> what needs to be restored after 'reset' and use similar mechanism etc...
>>>>
>>>> I think we should look into that.
>>>> Any 'codification' of semantics between drivers and ethdev library is good in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> At least right now, ethdev does not change any configuration in 'stop' and 'reset' from what I see.
>>>> But that's on library side only.
>>>>
>>>>>> This way, if we would conclude that it makes sense for .dev_start() to
>>>>>> handle all starting configuration aspects, we could track which drivers still rely
>>>>> on configuration restore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dariusz Sosnowski (4):
>>>>>>   ethdev: rework config restore
>>>>>>   ethdev: omit promiscuous config restore if not required
>>>>>>   ethdev: omit all multicast config restore if not required
>>>>>>   ethdev: omit MAC address restore if not required
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.c | 39 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>>>>>>  lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>  2 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 2.39.5
>>>>>>
>>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-09  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-18  9:21 Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-18  9:21 ` [RFC 1/4] " Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-18  9:21 ` [RFC 2/4] ethdev: omit promiscuous config restore if not required Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-18  9:22 ` [RFC 3/4] ethdev: omit all multicast " Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-18  9:22 ` [RFC 4/4] ethdev: omit MAC address " Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-29 23:31 ` [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-04 19:13   ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-07  9:27     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-07 22:56       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-08 17:21         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-09  1:07           ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2024-10-09 10:54             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-09 16:18             ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-09 23:16               ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-10 12:08                 ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-10 12:51                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-10 16:23                     ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-10 17:08                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-10 22:58                         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-11  0:02                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-11  8:23                             ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-11  8:29                             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-11  9:37                               ` Dariusz Sosnowski

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