From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
"Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>,
dev@dpdk.org
Cc: "Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
"Anatoly Burakov" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"David Christensen" <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Harry van Haaren" <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>,
"Konstantin Ananyev" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
"Min Zhou" <zhoumin@loongson.cn>,
"Ruifeng Wang" <ruifeng.wang@arm.com>,
"Stanislaw Kardach" <kda@semihalf.com>,
thomas@monjalon.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RFC: use C11 alignas instead of GCC attribute aligned
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:05:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <91ba1ece-10dd-4698-acd9-6b51cfc63cd9@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F1A3@smartserver.smartshare.dk>
On 2024-01-25 23:53, Morten Brørup wrote:
>> From: Tyler Retzlaff [mailto:roretzla@linux.microsoft.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2024 19.37
>>
>> ping.
>>
>> Please review this thread if you have time, the main point of
>> discussion
>> I would like to receive consensus on the following questions.
>>
>> 1. Should we continue to expand common alignments behind an __rte_macro
>>
>> i.e. what do we prefer to appear in code
>>
>> alignas(RTE_CACHE_LINE_MIN_SIZE)
>>
>> -- or --
>>
>> __rte_cache_aligned
>>
>> One of the benefits of dropping the macro is it provides a clear visual
>> indicator that it is not placed in the same location or get applied
>> to types as is done with __attribute__((__aligned__(n))).
>
> We don't want our own proprietary variant of something that already exists in the C standard. Now that we have moved to C11, the __rte alignment macros should be considered obsolete.
Making so something cache-line aligned is not in C11.
__rte_cache_aligned is shorter, provides a tiny bit of abstraction, and
is already an established DPDK standard. So just keep the macro. If it
would change, I would argue for it to be changed to rte_cache_aligned
(i.e., just moving it out of __ namespace, and maybe making it
all-uppercase).
Non-trivial C programs wrap things all the time, standard or not. It's
not something to be overly concerned about, imo.
>
> Note: I don't mind convenience macros for common use cases, so we could also introduce the macro suggested by Mattias [1]:
>
> #define RTE_CACHE_ALIGNAS alignas(RTE_CACHE_LINE_SIZE)
>
> [1]: https://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/dc3f3131-38e6-4219-861e-b31ec10c08bb@lysator.liu.se/
>
>>
>> 2. where should we place alignas(n) or __rte_macro (if we use a macro)
>>
>> Should it be on the same line as the variable or field or on the
>> preceeding line?
>>
>> /* same line example struct */
>> struct T {
>> /* alignas(64) applies to field0 *not* struct T type declaration
>> */
>> alignas(64) void *field0;
>> void *field1;
>>
>> ... other fields ...
>>
>> alignas(64) uint64_t field5;
>> uint32_t field6;
>>
>> ... more fields ...
>>
>> };
>>
>> /* same line example array */
>> alignas(64) static const uint32_t array[4] = { ... };
>>
>> -- or --
>>
>> /* preceeding line example struct */
>> struct T {
>> /* alignas(64) applies to field0 *not* struct T type declaration
>> */
>> alignas(64)
>> void *field0;
>> void *field1;
>>
>> ... other fields ...
>>
>> alignas(64)
>> uint64_t field5;
>> uint32_t field6;
>>
>> ... more fields ...
>>
>> };
>>
>> /* preceeding line example array */
>> alignas(64)
>> static const uint32_t array[4] = { ... };
>>
>
> Searching the net for what other projects do, I came across this required placement [2]:
>
> uint64_t alignas(64) field5;
>
> [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/buildroot/20230730000851.6faa3391@windsurf/T/
>
> So let's follow the standard's intention and put them on the same line.
> On an case-by-case basis, we can wrap lines if it improves readability, like we do with function headers that have a lot of attributes.
>
>>
>> I'll submit patches for lib/* once the discussion is concluded.
>>
>> thanks folks
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-26 10:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-15 17:39 Tyler Retzlaff
2023-11-15 17:39 ` [PATCH] eal: " Tyler Retzlaff
2023-11-15 18:13 ` Bruce Richardson
2023-11-15 18:27 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-11-15 20:08 ` Morten Brørup
2023-11-15 21:03 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-11-15 22:43 ` Stanisław Kardach
2023-11-16 10:12 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-25 18:37 ` [PATCH] RFC: " Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-25 22:53 ` Morten Brørup
2024-01-25 23:31 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-26 10:05 ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2024-01-26 10:18 ` Morten Brørup
2024-01-27 19:15 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-28 8:57 ` Morten Brørup
2024-01-28 10:00 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-29 19:43 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-30 8:08 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-30 17:39 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-30 17:59 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-01-30 18:01 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-01-30 18:04 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-30 18:18 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-31 16:04 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-30 8:09 ` Morten Brørup
2024-01-30 9:28 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-30 10:17 ` Morten Brørup
2024-01-30 13:00 ` Morten Brørup
2024-01-30 17:54 ` Tyler Retzlaff
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