From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: "Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>,
"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Heng Wang <heng.wang@ericsson.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 13:17:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <923ae68e-52a4-4f0e-abb4-4940f1a796e0@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240425180513.GA23608@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net>
On 2024-04-25 20:05, Tyler Retzlaff wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 10:58:47AM +0200, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
>> This patch set represent an attempt to improve and extend the RTE
>> bitops API, in particular for functions that operate on individual
>> bits.
>>
>> All new functionality is exposed to the user as generic selection
>> macros, delegating the actual work to private (__-marked) static
>> inline functions. Public functions (e.g., rte_bit_set32()) would just
>> be bloating the API. Such generic selection macros will here be
>> referred to as "functions", although technically they are not.
>
>
>>
>> The legacy <rte_bitops.h> rte_bit_relaxed_*() family of functions is
>> replaced with three families:
>>
>> rte_bit_[test|set|clear|assign]() which provides no memory ordering or
>> atomicity guarantees and no read-once or write-once semantics (e.g.,
>> no use of volatile), but does provide the best performance. The
>> performance degradation resulting from the use of volatile (e.g.,
>> forcing loads and stores to actually occur and in the number
>> specified) and atomic (e.g., LOCK-prefixed instructions on x86) may be
>> significant.
>>
>> rte_bit_once_*() which guarantees program-level load and stores
>> actually occurring (i.e., prevents certain optimizations). The primary
>> use of these functions are in the context of memory mapped
>> I/O. Feedback on the details (semantics, naming) here would be greatly
>> appreciated, since the author is not much of a driver developer.
>>
>> rte_bit_atomic_*() which provides atomic bit-level operations,
>> including the possibility to specifying memory ordering constraints
>> (or the lack thereof).
>>
>> The atomic functions take non-_Atomic pointers, to be flexible, just
>> like the GCC builtins and default <rte_stdatomic.h>. The issue with
>> _Atomic APIs is that it may well be the case that the user wants to
>> perform both non-atomic and atomic operations on the same word.
>>
>> Having _Atomic-marked addresses would complicate supporting atomic
>> bit-level operations in the bitset API (proposed in a different RFC
>> patchset), and potentially other APIs depending on RTE bitops for
>> atomic bit-level ops). Either one needs two bitset variants, one
>> _Atomic bitset and one non-atomic one, or the bitset code needs to
>> cast the non-_Atomic pointer to an _Atomic one. Having a separate
>> _Atomic bitset would be bloat and also prevent the user from both, in
>> some situations, doing atomic operations against a bit set, while in
>> other situations (e.g., at times when MT safety is not a concern)
>> operating on the same objects in a non-atomic manner.
>
> understood. i think the only downside is that if you do have an
> _Atomic-specified type you'll have to cast the qualification away
> to use the function like macro.
>
This is tricky, and I can't say I've really converged on an opinion, but
it seems to me at this point you shouldn't mark anything _Atomic.
> as a suggestion the _Generic legs could include both _Atomic-specified
> and non-_Atomic-specified types where an intermediate inline function
> could strip the qualification to use your core inline implementations.
>
> _Generic((v), int *: __foo32, RTE_ATOMIC(int) *: __foo32_unqual)(v))
>
> static inline void
> __foo32(int *a) { ... }
>
> static inline void
> __foo32_unqual(RTE_ATOMIC(int) *a) { __foo32((int *)(uintptr_t)(a)); }
>
> there is some similar prior art in newer ISO C23 with typeof_unqual.
>
> https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/typeof
>
This is an interesting solution, but I'm not sure it's a problem that
needs to be solved.
>>
>> Unlike rte_bit_relaxed_*(), individual bits are represented by bool,
>> not uint32_t or uint64_t. The author found the use of such large types
>> confusing, and also failed to see any performance benefits.
>>
>> A set of functions rte_bit_*_assign() are added, to assign a
>> particular boolean value to a particular bit.
>>
>> All new functions have properly documented semantics.
>>
>> All new functions (or more correctly, generic selection macros)
>> operate on both 32 and 64-bit words, with type checking.
>>
>> _Generic allow the user code to be a little more impact. Have a
>> type-generic atomic test/set/clear/assign bit API also seems
>> consistent with the "core" (word-size) atomics API, which is generic
>> (both GCC builtins and <rte_stdatomic.h> are).
>
> ack, can you confirm _Generic is usable from a C++ TU? i may be making a
> mistake locally but using g++ version 11.4.0 -std=c++20 it wasn't
> accepting it.
>
> i think using _Generic is ideal, it eliminates mistakes when handling
> the different integer sizes so if it turns out C++ doesn't want to
> cooperate the function like macro can conditionally expand to a C++
> template this will need to be done for MSVC since i can confirm
> _Generic does not work with MSVC C++.
>
That's unfortunate.
No, I didn't try it with C++. I just assumed _Generic was C++ as well.
The naive solution would be to include two overloaded functions per
function-like macro.
#ifdef __cplusplus
#undef rte_bit_set
static inline void
rte_bit_set(uint32_t *addr, unsigned int nr)
{
__rte_bit_set32(addr, nr);
}
static inline void
rte_bit_set(uint64_t *addr, unsigned int nr)
{
__rte_bit_set64(addr, nr);
}
#endif
Did you have something more clever/less verbose in mind? The best would
if one could have a completely generic C++-compatible replacement of
_Generic, but it's not obvious how that would work.
What's the minimum C++ version required by DPDK? C++11?
>>
>> The _Generic versions avoids having explicit unsigned long versions of
>> all functions. If you have an unsigned long, it's safe to use the
>> generic version (e.g., rte_set_bit()) and _Generic will pick the right
>> function, provided long is either 32 or 64 bit on your platform (which
>> it is on all DPDK-supported ABIs).
>>
>> The generic rte_bit_set() is a macro, and not a function, but
>> nevertheless has been given a lower-case name. That's how C11 does it
>> (for atomics, and other _Generic), and <rte_stdatomic.h>. Its address
>> can't be taken, but it does not evaluate its parameters more than
>> once.
>>
>> Things that are left out of this patch set, that may be included
>> in future versions:
>>
>> * Have all functions returning a bit number have the same return type
>> (i.e., unsigned int).
>> * Harmonize naming of some GCC builtin wrappers (i.e., rte_fls_u32()).
>> * Add __builtin_ffsll()/ffs() wrapper and potentially other wrappers
>> for useful/used bit-level GCC builtins.
>> * Eliminate the MSVC #ifdef-induced documentation duplication.
>> * _Generic versions of things like rte_popcount32(). (?)
>
> it would be nice to see them all converted, at the time i added them we
> still hadn't adopted C11 so was limited. but certainly not asking for it
> as a part of this series.
>
>>
>> Mattias Rönnblom (6):
>> eal: extend bit manipulation functionality
>> eal: add unit tests for bit operations
>> eal: add exactly-once bit access functions
>> eal: add unit tests for exactly-once bit access functions
>> eal: add atomic bit operations
>> eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions
>>
>> app/test/test_bitops.c | 319 +++++++++++++++++-
>> lib/eal/include/rte_bitops.h | 624 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> 2 files changed, 925 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
>>
>> --
>
> Series-acked-by: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
>
>> 2.34.1
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2024-03-02 13:53 [RFC 0/7] " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 1/7] eal: extend bit manipulation functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 17:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-03 6:26 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-04 16:34 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-05 18:01 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 18:06 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 11:12 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 0/5] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 1/5] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 11:16 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 11:58 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:24 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] dpdk: do not force C linkage on include file dependencies Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 16:43 ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-10 0:50 ` fengchengwen
2024-09-10 5:10 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] dpdk: do not force C linkage on include file dependencies Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] dpdk: do not force C linkage on include file dependencies Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 12:05 ` David Marchand
2024-09-17 9:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18 11:15 ` David Marchand
2024-09-18 12:09 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18 12:46 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-09-16 12:13 ` David Marchand
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:25 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:25 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:26 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:26 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-20 17:05 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-05 8:10 ` David Marchand
2024-09-09 12:04 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 12:24 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-09-09 12:25 ` David Marchand
2024-09-09 13:09 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 11:19 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:00 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 11:48 ` Morten Brørup
2024-08-12 11:22 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:28 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 2/5] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 15:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-08-09 15:37 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 16:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-08-09 16:57 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 3/5] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-07 19:17 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08 6:47 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08 7:33 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08 8:00 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08 8:11 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08 9:27 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08 10:08 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08 15:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-08 16:16 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-03 6:41 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-03 23:30 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-05-04 15:36 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 10:37 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-30 11:58 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
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2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 10:25 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-25 14:36 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 16:18 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-26 9:39 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26 12:00 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-28 15:37 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 7:24 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-30 16:52 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 18:05 ` [RFC v2 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-26 11:17 ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2024-04-26 21:35 ` Patrick Robb
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 2/7] eal: add generic bit manipulation macros Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-04 8:16 ` Heng Wang
2024-03-04 15:41 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-04 16:42 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-05 18:08 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 18:22 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-05 20:02 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 20:53 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 3/7] eal: add bit manipulation functions which read or write once Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 4/7] eal: add generic once-type bit operations macros Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 5/7] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 6/7] eal: add generic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 7/7] eal: deprecate relaxed family of " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 17:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-03 6:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
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