From: "Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: "Tan, Jianfeng" <jianfeng.tan@intel.com>,
"Van Haaren, Harry" <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>,
dev@dpdk.org, "Ananyev,
Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
bruce.richardson@intel.com, olivier.matz@6wind.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/2] eal: add asynchronous request API to DPDK IPC
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:21:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <92df6ce3-6657-76ac-c07b-8a0798f06106@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2138949.TA61XZhXVp@xps>
On 28-Mar-18 12:26 PM, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 28/03/2018 12:42, Burakov, Anatoly:
>> On 28-Mar-18 10:53 AM, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>>> 28/03/2018 11:21, Burakov, Anatoly:
>> I'm not against trying to improve the core design. I'm just saying that,
>> had this kind of feedback been provided just a bit earlier, I would've
>> had time to fix it in time for deadlines. However, because memory rework
>> patchset depends on this API, i would suggest merging it in now, as is,
>> and commit to a roadmap of improvements for next release(s).
>
> Actually, you had the feedback yourself from the beginning.
> You decided to gave up with interrupt thread because its implementation
> is not complete (and maybe far from perfect).
That's not quite how i see it, but OK, suppose so.
> There are some communities where it is not acceptable to workaround
> core issues because of timing issues. I think we accept it in DPDK,
> but I continue to question it, in order to be sure that everybody is OK
> with this kind of tradeoff.
The way i see it, not all API's are equal; some are more important than
others. This is a new, experimental API that is not core to any DPDK
function - it's not used on any hotpaths nor is it even that demanding
(the two threads will be sleeping 99.999% of the time anyway). I think
we're allowed to experiment on it before settling on an implementation
that satisfies everyone :)
>> For starters, we could plan on removing alarm thread's dependency on
>> rte_malloc and just use regular malloc API's in there, and rework
>> asynchronous IPC API to use that instead. This shouldn't be much work,
>> and will presumably make you halfway happy, as one of the threads will
>> be gone :)
>>
>> We can then look into removing the second thread and moving the entirety
>> of DPDK IPC into the interrupt thread. I'm not too sure how would that
>> work, but i haven't looked at it in any detail, so maybe it is feasible.
>>
>> Can we agree on this? It would be great to do everything perfectly from
>> the first try, but having a goal in sight and working towards it is fine
>> too, even if not all of the steps we take are perfect.
>
> The main concern is API.
> If all these changes are internal only, and does not involve any major
> API change, then I guess it is OK to pospone them in next release.
>
Yes, all of this is/will be internal to DPDK IPC - no externally visible
changes whatsoever.
--
Thanks,
Anatoly
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-28 12:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-27 14:59 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " Anatoly Burakov
2018-02-28 10:22 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-02 18:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Anatoly Burakov
2018-03-07 16:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Anatoly Burakov
2018-03-13 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Anatoly Burakov
2018-03-23 15:38 ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-03-23 18:21 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-24 13:22 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-24 12:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] eal: rename IPC sync request to pending request Anatoly Burakov
2018-03-26 7:31 ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-03-27 13:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 " Anatoly Burakov
2018-03-27 16:27 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-28 9:15 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-28 10:08 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-28 10:57 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-31 17:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/3] " Anatoly Burakov
2018-03-31 17:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/3] eal: rename mp_request to mp_request_sync Anatoly Burakov
2018-04-02 5:09 ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-03-31 17:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/3] eal: add asynchronous request API to DPDK IPC Anatoly Burakov
2018-04-04 22:15 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-27 13:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/2] " Anatoly Burakov
2018-03-27 16:33 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-28 2:08 ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-03-28 7:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-28 8:22 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2018-03-28 8:55 ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-03-28 9:10 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2018-03-28 9:21 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-28 9:53 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-28 10:42 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-28 11:26 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-28 12:21 ` Burakov, Anatoly [this message]
2018-03-28 9:11 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-03-24 12:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Anatoly Burakov
2018-03-26 14:15 ` Tan, Jianfeng
2018-03-26 14:28 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-02 18:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " Stephen Hemminger
2018-03-03 12:29 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-02 18:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-03-03 13:44 ` Burakov, Anatoly
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