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From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: "Honnappa Nagarahalli" <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>,
	"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@microsoft.com>,
	"konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: rte_atomic_*_explicit
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 09:12:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <97893aa5-4e13-4761-9fcb-214b3819bc16@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBAPR08MB5814DE2B5C2C3086D8832B8198792@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

On 2024-01-26 02:37, Honnappa Nagarahalli wrote:
> <snip>
> 
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:10:47PM +0100, Morten Br�rup wrote:
>>>> From: Mattias R�nnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2024 19.54
>>>>
>>>> Why do rte_stdatomic.h functions have the suffix "_explicit"?
>>>> Especially
>>>> since there aren't any wrappers for the implicit variants.
>>>>
>>>> More to type, more to read.
>>>
>>> They have the "_explicit" suffix to make their names similar to those in
>> stdatomic.h.
>>>
>>> You might consider their existence somewhat temporary until C11 stdatomics
>> can be fully phased in, so there's another argument for similar names. (This
>> probably does not happen as long as compilers generate slower code for C11
>> stdatomics than with their atomic built-ins.)
>>
>> yes, there was feedback at the time it was.
>>
>> * we should *not* have non-explicit versions of the macros
>> * the atomic generic functions should be named to match C11 standard
>>    with a rte_ prefix.
> This was mainly done to ensure that users think through the memory ordering they want to use. This also matches with the compiler atomic built-ins. Without explicit, it is sequentially consistent memory order.
> 

"This" is referring to the first bullet only, correct?

You don't have to distinguish between implicit and explicit if you only 
have explicit.

>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> When was this API introduced? Shouldn't it say "experimental"
>>>> somewhere?
>>>
>>> They were introduced as part of the migration to C11.
>>> I suppose they were not marked experimental because they replaced
>> something we didn't want anymore (the compiler built-ins for atomics, e.g.
>> __atomic_load_n()). I don't recall if we discussed experimental marking or not.
>>
>> i don't think we discussed it since they're wrapper macros.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reverse paper trail:
>>> https://git.dpdk.org/dpdk/log/lib/eal/include/rte_stdatomic.h
>>> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/1692738045-32363-2-git-
>> send-email-roretzla@linux.microsoft.com/
>>> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/1692738045-32363-2-git-
>> send-email-roretzla@linux.microsoft.com/
>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-26  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-25 18:53 rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-25 22:10 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Morten Brørup
2024-01-25 22:34   ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-26  1:37     ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-01-26  8:12       ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2024-01-26 16:58         ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-01-26 21:03           ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-26  8:07   ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-26 10:52     ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Morten Brørup
2024-01-26 21:35       ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-27 20:34         ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-30 18:36           ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-31 15:52             ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-31 17:34               ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Morten Brørup
2024-01-27 19:08       ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom

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