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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Andrzej Ostruszka" <amo@semihalf.com>,
	"Jerin Jacob" <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
Cc: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"dpdk-dev" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/3] introduce IF proxy library
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:58:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35C60CFC@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <928ffe12-be45-1f5b-8adb-365bac2f92af@semihalf.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Andrzej Ostruszka
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 11:43 AM
> 
> On 1/16/20 10:30 AM, Morten Brørup wrote:
> [...]
> >> You are thinking already about modification of the application data.
> >> That is actually beyond the scope of the library.
> >
> > Yes, it is beyond the scope of the library; but I prefer the library
> to
> > be designed for how typical applications are going to use it.
> >
> > I suggest that you supplement the library with an example DPDK
> application
> > that is a simple IPv4 router, forwarding packets and responding to
> ARP
> > requests - according to its configuration applied in the O/S via your
> proxy
> > library. You could even add support for relevant ICMP packets (e.g.
> respond
> > to ICMP Echo Request and send TTL Exceeded when appropriate).
> 
> Actually our thinking was more along the way: such router would see
> these control packets so it will send them (tx burst) to proxy port and
> let the system stack do its job: change config and possibly send reply.
> The former would be listened on NETLINK (in Linux) and the later would
> be just read from proxy port and forwarded to the bound port.  That way
> DPDK application would not have to re-implement these control
> protocols.
> 

You are right. I momentarily forgot that.

And the example application will show how to do this.

> > It will help you determine what is required by the library, and how
> > the library best interfaces to a "typical" DPDK application.
> 
> Yes indeed, that kind usage discovery exercise would be good.
> 
> > I think a poll based design pattern is more appropriate. Getting a
> Netlink
> > message from the O/S and converting it to a callback in the library,
> and
> > then converting it back to a message in the DPDK application seems
> like
> > crossing the river to get water.
> 
> You'd still need to repack the message and that could be the job of the
> callback.
> 
> At the moment we don't have much experience with the library and to me
> the callback is more generic approach with which one can achieve
> different designs.  However nothing here is curved in stone so if we
> figure out that this is too generic we will change it.
> 

Please re-read my reply to Jerin Jacob why I prefer a pull model instead:
https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2020-January/155386.html

Take a stab at the example application, and see which design pattern is the best fit.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-16 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-14 14:25 Andrzej Ostruszka
2020-01-14 14:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/3] lib: introduce IF proxy library (API) Andrzej Ostruszka
2020-01-14 14:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 2/3] if_proxy: add preliminary Linux implementation Andrzej Ostruszka
2020-01-14 14:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 3/3] if_proxy: add example, test and documentation Andrzej Ostruszka
2020-01-14 15:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/3] introduce IF proxy library Morten Brørup
2020-01-14 17:38   ` Andrzej Ostruszka
2020-01-15 10:15     ` Bruce Richardson
2020-01-15 11:27       ` Jerin Jacob
2020-01-15 12:28       ` Morten Brørup
2020-01-15 12:57         ` Jerin Jacob
2020-01-15 15:30           ` Morten Brørup
2020-01-15 16:04             ` Jerin Jacob
2020-01-15 18:15               ` Morten Brørup
2020-01-16  7:15                 ` Jerin Jacob
2020-01-16  9:11                   ` Morten Brørup
2020-01-16  9:09                 ` Andrzej Ostruszka
2020-01-16  9:30                   ` Morten Brørup
2020-01-16 10:42                     ` Andrzej Ostruszka
2020-01-16 10:58                       ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2020-01-16 12:06                         ` Andrzej Ostruszka
2020-01-15 14:09         ` Bruce Richardson

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