From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>,
<olivier.matz@6wind.com>, <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
<honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>, <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
<ferruh.yigit@intel.com>, <jerinj@marvell.com>,
<gakhil@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] parray: introduce internal API for dynamic arrays
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 09:53:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35C61855@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1857954.7Ex43hCf9S@thomas>
> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Monjalon
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 08.48
>
> 14/06/2021 17:48, Morten Brørup:
> > > From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
> Monjalon
> > It would be much simpler to just increase RTE_MAX_ETHPORTS to
> something big enough to hold a sufficiently large array. And possibly
> add an rte_max_ethports variable to indicate the number of populated
> entries in the array, for use when iterating over the array.
> >
> > Can we come up with another example than RTE_MAX_ETHPORTS where this
> library provides a better benefit?
>
> What is big enough?
> Is 640KB enough for RAM? ;)
Good point!
I think we agree that:
- The cost of this library is some added complexity, i.e. working with a dynamically sized array through a library instead of just indexing into a compile time fixed size array.
- The main benefit of this library is saving some RAM (and still allowing a potentially very high number of ports.)
My point was: The amount of RAM we are saving is a key parameter for the cost/benefit analysis. And since I don't think the rte_eth_devices[] array uses a significant amount of memory, I was asking for some other array using more memory, where the cost/benefit analysis would come out more advantageous to your proposed parray library.
>
> When dealing with microservices switching, the numbers can increase
> very fast.
Yes, I strongly supported increasing the port_id type from 8 to 16 bits for this reason, when it was discussed at the DPDK Userspace a few years ago in Dublin. And with large RTE_MAX_QUEUES_PER_PORT values, the rte_eth_dev structure uses quite a lot of space for the rx/tx callback arrays. But the memory usage of rte_eth_devices[] is still relatively insignificant in a system wide context.
If main purpose is to optimize the rte_eth_devices[] array, I think there are better alternatives than this library. Bruce and Konstantin already threw a few ideas on the table.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-15 7:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-14 10:58 Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-14 12:22 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-14 13:15 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-14 13:32 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-14 14:59 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-14 15:48 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-15 6:52 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-15 8:00 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-15 9:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-15 9:33 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-15 9:50 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-15 10:08 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-15 14:02 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-15 14:37 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-06-14 15:54 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-17 13:08 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-17 14:58 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-17 15:17 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-17 16:12 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-17 16:55 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-18 10:21 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-17 17:05 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-18 9:14 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-18 10:47 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-18 11:16 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-18 10:28 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-17 15:44 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-18 10:41 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-18 10:49 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-21 11:06 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-21 12:10 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-21 12:30 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-21 13:28 ` Morten Brørup
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2021-06-22 8:33 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-22 10:01 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-22 12:13 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-22 13:18 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-21 14:10 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-21 14:38 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-21 15:56 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-21 18:17 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-21 14:05 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-21 14:42 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-21 15:32 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-21 15:37 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-14 15:48 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-15 6:48 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-15 7:53 ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2021-06-15 8:44 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-15 9:28 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-16 9:42 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16 11:27 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-16 12:00 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16 13:02 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 15:01 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-16 17:40 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 12:22 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2021-06-16 12:59 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16 22:58 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-06-14 13:28 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-16 11:11 ` Burakov, Anatoly
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