From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "fengchengwen" <fengchengwen@huawei.com>,
"Jerin Jacob" <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
Cc: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"Jerin Jacob" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
"Nipun Gupta" <nipun.gupta@nxp.com>,
"Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
"Ferruh Yigit" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
"dpdk-dev" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Hemant Agrawal" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
"Maxime Coquelin" <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
"Honnappa Nagarahalli" <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>,
"David Marchand" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
"Satananda Burla" <sburla@marvell.com>,
"Prasun Kapoor" <pkapoor@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] dmadev discussion summary
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 16:57:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35C618D9@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e19b23b0-294f-5430-eaa3-067a3aadd13d@huawei.com>
> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of fengchengwen
> Sent: Friday, 2 July 2021 15.45
>
> On 2021/7/1 23:01, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> >> [key point]:
> >> ----------- -----------
> >> | channel | | channel |
> >> ----------- -----------
> >> \ /
> >> \ /
> >> \ /
> >> ------------
> >> | HW-queue |
> >> ------------
> >> |
> >> --------
> >> |rawdev|
> >> --------
> >> 1) User could create one channel by init
> context(dpi_dma_queue_ctx_s),
> >> this interface is not standardized and needs to be
> implemented by
> >> users.
> >> 2) Different channels can support different transmissions,
> e.g. one for
> >> inner m2m, and other for inbound copy.
> >>
> >> Overall, I think the 'channel' is similar the 'virt-queue' of
> dpaa2_qdma.
> >> The difference is that dpaa2_qdma supports multiple hardware
> queues. The
> >> 'channel' has following
> >
> > If dpaa2_qdma supports more than one HW queue, I think, it is good to
> > have the queue notion
> > in DPDK just like other DPDK device classes. It will be good to have
> > confirmation from dpaa2 folks, @Hemant Agrawal,
> > if there are really more than 1 HW queue in dppa device.
> >
> >
> > IMO, Channel is a better name than a virtual queue. The reason is,
> > virtual queue is more
> > implementation-specific notation. No need to have this in API
> specification.
> >
>
> In the DPDK framework, many data-plane API names contain queues. e.g.
> eventdev/crypto..
> The concept of virt queues has continuity.
I was also wondering about the name "virtual queue".
Usually, something "virtual" would be an abstraction of something physical, e.g. a software layer on top of something physical.
Back in the days, a "DMA channel" used to mean a DMA engine on a CPU. If a CPU had 2 DMA channels, they could both be set up simultaneously.
The current design has the "dmadev" representing a CPU or other chip, which has one or more "HW-queues" representing DMA channels (of the same type), and then "virt-queue" as a software abstraction on top, for using a DMA channel in different ways through individually configured contexts (virt-queues).
It makes sense to me, although I would consider renaming "HW-queue" to "channel" and perhaps "virt-queue" to "queue".
These names are not important to me. You can keep them or change them; I am happy any way.
But the names used for functions, types and parameters need to be cleaned up and match the names used in the documentation. E.g. rte_dmadev_queue_setup() does not set up a queue, it sets up a virt-queue, so that function name needs to be corrected.
Also, the rte_ prefix is missing in a few places, e.g. struct dma_scatterlist and enum dma_address_type. Obviously not important for this high level discussion based on draft source code, but important for the final implementation.
-Morten
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-02 14:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-15 13:22 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH] dmadev: introduce DMA device library Chengwen Feng
2021-06-15 16:38 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 7:09 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-16 10:17 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-16 12:09 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-16 13:06 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 14:37 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-17 9:15 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18 5:52 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-18 9:41 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-22 17:25 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 3:30 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-23 7:21 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 9:37 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-23 11:40 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 14:19 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-24 6:49 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 9:41 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-23 10:10 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-23 11:46 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 14:22 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18 9:55 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-22 17:31 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-22 19:17 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-23 7:00 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16 9:41 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-16 17:31 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 18:08 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16 19:13 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-17 7:42 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-17 8:00 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18 5:16 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-18 10:03 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-22 17:36 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-17 9:48 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-17 11:02 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-17 14:18 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18 8:52 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-18 9:30 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-22 17:51 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 3:50 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-23 11:00 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 14:56 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-24 12:19 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-26 3:59 ` [dpdk-dev] dmadev discussion summary fengchengwen
2021-06-28 10:00 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-28 11:14 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-28 12:53 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-02 13:31 ` fengchengwen
2021-07-01 15:01 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-01 16:33 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-02 7:39 ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-02 10:05 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-02 13:45 ` fengchengwen
2021-07-02 14:57 ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2021-07-03 0:32 ` fengchengwen
2021-07-03 8:53 ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-03 9:08 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-03 12:24 ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-04 7:43 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-05 10:28 ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-06 7:11 ` fengchengwen
2021-07-03 9:45 ` fengchengwen
2021-07-03 12:00 ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-04 7:34 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-02 7:07 ` Liang Ma
2021-07-02 13:59 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-24 7:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH] dmadev: introduce DMA device library Jerin Jacob
2021-06-24 7:59 ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-24 8:05 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 5:34 ` Hu, Jiayu
2021-06-23 11:07 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16 2:17 ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-16 8:04 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 8:16 ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-16 12:14 ` David Marchand
2021-06-16 13:11 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 16:48 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-06-16 19:10 ` Bruce Richardson
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