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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Wang, Haiyue" <haiyue.wang@intel.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, "Wang, Wen" <wenw@silicom-usa.com>,
	<stable@dpdk.org>, <stephend@silicom-usa.com>,
	"Lu, Wenzhuo" <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Helin" <helin.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Qi Z" <qi.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 3/7] net/ixgbe: Check that SFF-8472 soft rate select is supported before write
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:13:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D86DA2@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR11MB3495D39F065F0A328613607EF77D9@BYAPR11MB3495.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

> From: Wang, Haiyue [mailto:haiyue.wang@intel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 17.03
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 18:44
> >
> > > From: Wang, Haiyue [mailto:haiyue.wang@intel.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 02.24
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 16:58
> > > >
> > > > > From: Wang, Haiyue [mailto:haiyue.wang@intel.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2021 02.15
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Stephen Douthit <stephend@silicom-usa.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 05:33
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/20/21 02:53, Wang, Haiyue wrote:
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: Stephen Douthit <stephend@silicom-usa.com>
> > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 06:19
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Make sure an SFP is really a SFF-8472 device that supports
> the
> > > > > optional
> > > > > > >> soft rate select feature before just blindly poking those
> I2C
> > > > > registers.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Skip all I2C traffic if we know there's no SFP.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Fixes: f3430431aba ("ixgbe/base: add SFP+ dual-speed
> support")
> > > > > > >> Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Signed-off-by: Stephen Douthit <stephend@silicom-usa.com>
> > > > > > >> ---
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Normally, DPDK keeps sync with this kind of release.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Working with the Linux kernel mainline drivers is good advice.
> > > >
> > > > The official Intel Linux drivers seem to be ages behind the
> Kernel
> > > mainline, and they don't fully
> > >
> > > No, the "ixgbe" drivers is updated on "7/8/2021".
> > >
> > > https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/14302/14687/intel-
> > > network-adapter-driver-for-pcie-intel-10-gigabit-ethernet-network-
> > > connections-under-linux.html
> >
> > So you can imagine my surprise that they didn't work on the C3338 SoC
> launched by Intel in Q1'17. The
> > web page says that the drivers supports kernel versions 2.6.18 to
> 5.12, so we expected them to work
> > with kernel 3.19. Perhaps they haven't been tested with the C3338
> SoC. Also, the test section on the
> > web page only mentions 64 bit distributions, so perhaps they haven't
> been tested with a 32 bit kernel.
> > There is no test report available, so I can only speculate.
> >
> > I am sorry if I came off as badmouthing the Intel out-of-tree driver.
> I was only trying to convey to
> > the good folks at Silicom that kernel.org is a better source of
> inspiration than the Intel out-of-tree
> > driver, which is not as up-to-date as the kernel.org driver, and thus
> not the optimal source of
> > inspiration for driver development. The out-of-tree drivers serve a
> different purpose, where they are
> > extremely valuable: In normal production environments where it is not
> an option to compile and deploy
> > a kernel from scratch.
> >
> 
> > >
> > > > support the C3000 NICs, so don’t waste any time there! We
> recently
> > > tried using the official Intel
> > > > Linux drivers for a C3338 based project (using Kernel 3.19 in 32
> bit
> > > mode with x2APIC disabled), and
> > > > they didn't work at all. We ended up backporting the necessary
> > > changes from the kernel mainline
> > > > instead.
> > >
> > > From Steve's response:
> > >      ME: "I guess this is just in C3000 reference board SDK ?"
> > >      Steve: "It's the board covered by Intel Doc # 574437."
> > >
> > > I check the doc "Last Updated: 11/07/2018".... It should be some
> kind
> > > of customer release, that's why
> > > they are not in the official *open source* Linux driver, so keep
> your
> > > patch set as private.
> >
> > I didn't mention it explicitly, but I'm not involved with Silicom,
> and was not referring to their
> > hardware. The hardware board we had problems with is currently in
> volume production at a major ODM.
> > But I guess that it is usually being deployed with a 64 bit kernel,
> as opposed to the 32 bit kernel we
> > were using.
> 
> I understood, but we need to follow the open source vs customer release
> policy,
> so not everything is upstream.
> 
> The ixgbe (especially in base directory) code is so stable, so in other
> words,
> this patch set can be rebased easily. ;-)
> 
> If the patch is about ixgbe ethdev part (vs kernel netdev), it will be
> welcomed,
> since our team mainly work on this (And the base code is mainly
> developed by the
> kernel team, that's why I recommend to send it to
> https://lists.osuosl.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-wired-lan).
> 
> Hope this will make things clear. ;-)

ACK. :-)


  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-22 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-06 22:19 [PATCH v2 0/7] ixgbe SFP handling fixes Stephen Douthit
2021-12-06 22:19 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] net/ixgbe: Fix ixgbe_is_sfp() to return valid result for X550EM_a devs Stephen Douthit
2021-12-20  7:45   ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-12-20 21:32     ` Stephen Douthit
2021-12-06 22:19 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] net/ixgbe: Add ixgbe_check_sfp_cage() for testing state of PRSNT# signal Stephen Douthit
2021-12-06 22:19 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] net/ixgbe: Check that SFF-8472 soft rate select is supported before write Stephen Douthit
2021-12-20  7:53   ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-12-20 21:32     ` Stephen Douthit
2021-12-21  1:15       ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-12-21  8:57         ` Morten Brørup
2021-12-22  1:24           ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-12-22 10:43             ` Morten Brørup
2021-12-22 16:03               ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-12-22 19:13                 ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2021-12-22 21:44                 ` Stephen Douthit
2021-12-23  0:55                   ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-01-18 21:06                     ` Stephen Douthit
2022-01-19  0:31                       ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-02-07 16:04                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-02-08 13:50                           ` Jeff Daly
2022-02-08 14:52                             ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-02-09  4:00                               ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-02-09 13:33                                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-02-09 13:43                                   ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-12-21 14:05         ` Stephen Douthit
2021-12-06 22:19 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] net/ixgbe: Run 82599 link status workaround only on affected devices Stephen Douthit
2021-12-06 22:19 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] net/ixgbe: Fix SFP detection and linking on hotplug Stephen Douthit
2022-02-07 16:07   ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-12-06 22:19 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] net/ixgbe: Retry SFP ID read field to handle misbehaving SFPs Stephen Douthit
2021-12-06 22:19 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] net/ixgbe: Treat 1G Cu SFPs as 1G SX on the X550 devices Stephen Douthit
2021-12-17  9:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] ixgbe SFP handling fixes Thomas Monjalon
2022-02-24 15:23 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Jeff Daly
2022-02-24 15:23   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] net/ixgbe: Fix ixgbe_is_sfp() to return valid result for X550EM_a devs Jeff Daly
2022-02-24 15:23   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] net/ixgbe: Limit SDP3 check of TX_DISABLE to appropriate devices Jeff Daly
2022-02-24 15:23   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] net/ixgbe: Fix SFP detection and linking on hotplug Jeff Daly
2022-02-25  1:56     ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-02-25 20:50 ` [PATCH v4 " Jeff Daly
2022-02-26 15:57   ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-02-28 15:29 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] ixgbe SFP handling fixes Jeff Daly
2022-02-28 15:29   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] net/ixgbe: Fix ixgbe_is_sfp() to return valid result for X550EM_a devs Jeff Daly
2022-03-01  5:56     ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-03-01 11:18       ` Zhang, Qi Z
2022-03-06 17:56         ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-03-08 15:01           ` Jeff Daly
2022-02-28 15:29   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] net/ixgbe: Limit SDP3 check of TX_DISABLE to appropriate devices Jeff Daly
2022-02-28 15:29   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] net/ixgbe: Fix SFP detection and linking on hotplug Jeff Daly
2022-03-12 13:03     ` Jeff Daly
2022-03-10 12:35   ` [PATCH v4 0/3] ixgbe SFP handling fixes Zhang, Qi Z
2022-04-12 17:34   ` [PATCH v5 0/2] " Jeff Daly
2022-04-12 17:34     ` [PATCH v5 1/2] net/ixgbe: Limit SDP3 check of TX_DISABLE to appropriate devices Jeff Daly
2022-04-12 17:34     ` [PATCH v5 2/2] net/ixgbe: Fix SFP detection and linking on hotplug Jeff Daly
2022-04-12 17:42   ` [PATCH v6 0/2] ixgbe SFP handling fixes Jeff Daly
2022-04-12 17:42     ` [PATCH v6 1/2] net/ixgbe: Limit SDP3 check of TX_DISABLE to appropriate devices Jeff Daly
2022-04-13  1:21       ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-13 15:32         ` Jeff Daly
2022-04-14  1:56           ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-12 17:42     ` [PATCH v6 2/2] net/ixgbe: Fix SFP detection and linking on hotplug Jeff Daly
2022-04-13  2:46       ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-13  6:57         ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-13  7:01           ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-13  7:19             ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-13 11:49               ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-13 12:54                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-13 15:23               ` Jeff Daly
2022-04-14 10:49         ` Jeff Daly
2022-04-14 11:08           ` Jeff Daly
2022-04-14  2:49       ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-14  2:59         ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-14 10:40           ` Jeff Daly
2022-04-14 12:11             ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-18 21:54               ` Jeff Daly
2022-04-19  2:05                 ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-19 17:33                   ` Jeff Daly
2022-04-20  1:09                     ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-04-21 17:31                       ` Jeff Daly
2022-04-22  2:11                         ` Wang, Haiyue
2022-05-12  1:26       ` Zhang, Qi Z
2022-05-25 16:55         ` Jeff Daly

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