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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Honnappa Nagarahalli" <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"Feifei Wang" <Feifei.Wang2@arm.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, "nd" <nd@arm.com>,
	"Ruifeng Wang" <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>, "nd" <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 5/5] examples/l3fwd: enable direct rearm mode
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 08:40:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D86FE8@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBAPR08MB581470A4DE41AC755F5FD25898F49@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

> From: Honnappa Nagarahalli [mailto:Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 21 April 2022 04.35
> >
> > > From: Feifei Wang [mailto:feifei.wang2@arm.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2022 10.17
> > >
> > > Enable direct rearm mode. The mapping is decided in the data plane
> > > based on the first packet received.
> >
> > I usually don't care much about l3fwd, but putting configuration
> changes in the
> > fast path is just wrong!
> I would say it depends. In this case the cycles consumed by the API are
> very less and configuration data is very small and is already in the
> cache as PMD has accessed the same data structure.
> 
> If the configuration needs more cycles than a typical (depending on the
> application) data plane packet processing needs or brings in enormous
> amount of data in to the cache, it should not be done on the data
> plane.
> 

As a matter of principle, configuration changes should be done outside the fast path.

If we allow an exception for this feature, it will set a bad precedent about where to put configuration code.

> >
> > Also, l3fwd is often used for benchmarking, and this small piece of
> code in the
> > fast path will affect benchmark results (although only very little).
> We do not see any impact on the performance numbers. The reason for
> putting in the data plane was it covers wider use case in this L3fwd
> application. If the app were to be simple, the configuration could be
> done from the control plane. Unfortunately, the performance of L3fwd
> application matters.
> 

Let's proceed down that path for the sake of discussion... Then the fast path is missing runtime verification that all preconditions for using remapping are present at any time.

> >
> > Please move it out of the fast path.

BTW, this patch does not call the rte_eth_direct_rxrearm_enable() to enable the feature.

And finally, this feature should be disabled by default, and only enabled by a command line parameter or similar. Otherwise, future l3fwd NIC performance reports will provide misleading performance results, if the feature is utilized. Application developers, when comparing NIC performance results, don't care about the performance for this unique use case; they care about the performance for the generic use case.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-21  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-20  8:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] net/i40e: remove redundant Dtype initialization Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] net/i40e: enable direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2022-05-11 22:28   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] ethdev: add API for " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  9:59   ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-29  2:42     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20 10:41   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-04-29  6:28     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-05-10 22:49       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 10:19         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-04-20 10:50   ` Jerin Jacob
2022-05-02  3:09     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-21 14:57   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-29  6:35     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] net/i40e: add direct rearm mode internal API Feifei Wang
2022-05-11 22:31   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] examples/l3fwd: enable direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2022-04-20 10:10   ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-21  2:35     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-21  6:40       ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2022-05-10 22:01         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-11  7:17           ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-11 22:33   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-27 11:28     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-31 17:14       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 10:32         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-06 11:27         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-29 21:25           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-11 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Konstantin Ananyev
     [not found] ` <20220516061012.618787-1-feifei.wang2@arm.com>
2022-05-24  1:25   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-24 12:40     ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-24 20:14     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-28 12:22       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-01  1:00         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 23:32           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-04  8:07             ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-29 21:58               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-30 15:21                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-01 19:30                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-01 20:28                     ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-13  5:55     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ethdev: enable direct rearm with separate API Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  8:21     ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-04  8:51       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04 10:11         ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-24  8:55           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-06 12:49       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-06 13:26         ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-06 14:53           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-06 15:02           ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-07  6:12             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-03-07 10:52               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-07 20:41               ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-22 14:43                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-02 14:33     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-24  9:45       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-27 19:31         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  2:16           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-28  8:09           ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-01  7:34             ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] net/i40e: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-02 14:37     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-24  9:50       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-27 19:35         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  2:15           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-07 11:01             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-14  6:07               ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-19 16:11                 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-23 10:49                   ` Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-31  6:13   ` 回复: [PATCH v3 0/3] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2023-02-01  1:10     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-01  2:24       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-22 12:56   ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-22 13:41     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-03-22 14:04       ` Morten Brørup
2023-08-02  7:38 ` [PATCH v8 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08 ` [PATCH v9 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24 ` [PATCH v10 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27 ` [PATCH v11 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 14:02     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-24  3:16       ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 23:33     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-24  3:38     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 23:43     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-24  6:10     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-31 17:24       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-31 23:49         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-01 12:22         ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-01 14:22           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-04  6:59             ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-04  7:49               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-04  9:24                 ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-04 10:21                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-05  3:11                     ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 14:58                       ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 15:46                         ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 16:40                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-23  5:52                             ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-23 20:40                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:26                               ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:33   ` [PATCH v11 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 13:59   ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-24  3:11     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36 ` [PATCH v12 " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-31  9:16     ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-20 13:10     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-09-20 13:11     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-20 13:12   ` [PATCH v12 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-22 15:30     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-25  3:19 ` [PATCH v13 " Feifei Wang
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-09-25  4:40     ` Ajit Khaparde
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-09-26  8:26     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-26  8:56       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-26 13:34     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-09-26 13:30     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-09-26 13:30     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-26 16:38       ` Ajit Khaparde
2023-09-27 17:24   ` [PATCH v13 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Ferruh Yigit

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