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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Spike Du" <spiked@nvidia.com>,
	"NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)" <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: "Matan Azrad" <matan@nvidia.com>,
	"Slava Ovsiienko" <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	"Ori Kam" <orika@nvidia.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Raslan Darawsheh" <rasland@nvidia.com>,
	<stephen@networkplumber.org>, <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	<ferruh.yigit@amd.com>, <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 15:40:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D870B1@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR12MB3647C02B3F019AFC9B1B14ACA8D69@MN2PR12MB3647.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

> From: Spike Du [mailto:spiked@nvidia.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15.15
> 
> > From: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:00 AM
> >
> > > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17.59
> > >
> > > +Cc people involved in previous versions
> > >
> > > 24/05/2022 17:20, Spike Du:
> > > > LWM(limit watermark) is per RX queue attribute, when RX queue
> > > fullness reach the LWM limit, HW sends an event to dpdk
> application.
> > > > Host shaper can configure shaper rate and lwm-triggered for a
> host
> > > port.
> >
> > Please ignore this comment, it is not important, but I had to get it
> out of my
> > system: I assume that the "LWM" name is from the NIC datasheet;
> otherwise
> > I would probably prefer something with "threshold"... LWM is easily
> > confused with "low water mark", which is the opposite of what the LWM
> > does. Names are always open for discussion, so I won't object to it.
> >
> > > > The shaper limits the rate of traffic from host port to wire
> port.
> >
> > From host to wire? It is RX, so you must mean from wire to host.
> 
> The host shaper is quite private to Nvidia's BlueField 2 NIC. The NIC
> is inserted
> In a server which we call it host-system, and the NIC has an embedded
> Arm-system
> Which does the forwarding.
> The traffic flows from host-system to wire like this:
> Host-system generates traffic, send it to Arm-system, Arm sends it to
> physical/wire port.
> So the RX happens between host-system and Arm-system, and the traffic
> is host to wire.
> The shaper also works in a special way: you configure it on Arm-system,
> but it takes effect
> On host-sysmem's TX side.
> 
> >
> > > > If lwm-triggered is enabled, a 100Mbps shaper is enabled
> > > automatically when one of the host port's Rx queues receives LWM
> event.
> > > >
> > > > These two features can combine to control traffic from host port
> to
> > > wire port.
> >
> > Again, you mean from wire to host?
> 
> Pls see above.
> 
> >
> > > > The work flow is configure LWM to RX queue and enable lwm-
> triggered
> > > flag in host shaper, after receiving LWM event, delay a while until
> RX
> > > queue is empty , then disable the shaper. We recycle this work flow
> to
> > > reduce RX queue drops.
> >
> > You delay while RX queue gets drained by some other threads, I
> assume.
> 
> The PMD thread drains the Rx queue, the PMD receiving  as normal, as
> the PMD
> Implementation uses rte interrupt thread to handle LWM event.
> 

Thank you for the explanation, Spike. It really clarifies a lot!

If this patch is intended for DPDK running on the host-system, then the LWM attribute is associated with a TX queue, not an RX queue. The packets are egressing from the host-system, so TX from the host-system's perspective.

Otherwise, if this patch is for DPDK running on the embedded ARM-system, it should be highlighted somewhere.

> >
> > Surely, the excess packets must be dropped somewhere, e.g. by the
> shaper?

I guess the shaper doesn't have to drop any packets, but the host-system will simply be unable to put more packets into the queue if it runs full.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-25 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-01  3:22 [RFC 0/6] net/mlx5: introduce " Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56   ` [RFC v1 0/7] net/mlx5: introduce limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-19  9:37       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 7/7] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58     ` [RFC v2 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-22 15:23         ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-23  3:01           ` Spike Du
2022-05-23 21:45             ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-24  2:50               ` Spike Du
2022-05-24  8:18                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-25 12:59                   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-25 13:58                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-25 14:23                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-23 22:54             ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-24  3:46               ` Spike Du
2022-05-22 15:24         ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-23  2:18           ` Spike Du
2022-05-23  6:07         ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-23 10:58           ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-23 14:10             ` Spike Du
2022-05-23 14:39               ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-24  6:35                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-24  9:40                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:59       ` [RFC v2 7/7] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20       ` [PATCH v3 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:59         ` [PATCH v3 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-24 19:00           ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-24 19:22             ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-25 14:11               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-25 13:14             ` Spike Du
2022-05-25 13:40               ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2022-05-25 13:59                 ` Spike Du
2022-05-25 14:16                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-25 14:30                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-03 12:48         ` [PATCH v4 0/7] introduce per-queue fill threshold " Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-03 14:30             ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based fill threshold Spike Du
2022-06-03 14:30             ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-04 12:46             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-06 13:16               ` Spike Du
2022-06-06 17:15                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-06 21:30                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-07  8:02                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-07  6:00                   ` Spike Du
2022-06-06 15:49             ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based fill threshold Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-03 14:55             ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 7/7] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59           ` [PATCH v5 0/7] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-08 20:10               ` Matan Azrad
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 7/7] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-09  7:55               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-10  2:22                 ` Spike Du
2022-06-13  2:50               ` [PATCH v6] " Spike Du
2022-06-13  2:50                 ` Spike Du
2022-06-14  9:43                   ` Singh, Aman Deep
2022-06-14  9:54                     ` Spike Du
2022-06-14 12:01                   ` [PATCH v7] " Spike Du
2022-06-14 12:01                     ` Spike Du
2022-06-15  7:51                       ` Matan Azrad
2022-06-15 11:08                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-15 12:58                       ` [PATCH v8 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                           ` [PATCH v9 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                               ` [PATCH v10 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-23 16:05                                   ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 4/6] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 6/6] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-19  8:14                                 ` [PATCH v10 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Raslan Darawsheh
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 4/6] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 6/6] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 4/6] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 6/6] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-08  9:43             ` [PATCH v5 0/7] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-08 16:35             ` [PATCH v6] ethdev: introduce available Rx descriptors threshold Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-08 17:22               ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-08 17:46                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-09  0:17                   ` fengchengwen
2022-06-09  7:05                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-10  0:01                       ` fengchengwen
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 4/6] net/mlx5: add private API to configure Rxq LWM Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 6/6] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-04-05  8:58 ` [RFC 0/6] net/mlx5: introduce limit watermark and host shaper Jerin Jacob
2022-04-26  2:42   ` Spike Du
2022-05-01 12:50     ` Jerin Jacob
2022-05-02  3:58       ` Spike Du
2022-04-29  5:48   ` Spike Du

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