From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"Patrick Robb" <probb@iol.unh.edu>
Cc: "Nicholas Pratte" <npratte@iol.unh.edu>,
<paul.szczepanek@arm.com>, <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>,
<yoan.picchi@foss.arm.com>, <thomas@monjalon.net>,
<wathsala.vithanage@arm.com>, <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
<dev@dpdk.org>, "Jeremy Spewock" <jspewock@iol.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] dts: Change hugepage runtime config to 2MB Exclusively
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 11:35:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F37D@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZhOmfvfYaqWw1XEL@bricha3-mobl1.ger.corp.intel.com>
> From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> Sent: Monday, 8 April 2024 10.11
>
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 12:04:24AM +0200, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > > From: Patrick Robb [mailto:probb@iol.unh.edu]
> > > Sent: Saturday, 6 April 2024 21.21
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 4:47 AM Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This change seems very CPU specific.
> > > >
> > > > E.g. in x86 32-bit mode, the hugepage size is 4 MB, not 2 MB.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know the recommended hugepage size on other architectures.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Morten, that's an important insight which we weren't aware of
> > > when we initially discussed this ticket.
> > >
> > > We read on some dpdk docs that 1gb hugepages should be set at boot (I
> > > think the reason is because that's when you can guarantee there is gbs
> > > of contiguous available memory), and that after boot, only 2gb
> > > hugepages should be set. I assume that even for other arches which
> > > don't support the 2mb pages specifically, we still want to allocate
> > > hugepages using the smallest page size possible per arch (for the same
> > > reason).
> >
> > Correct; for very large hugepages, they need to be set at boot.
> > I don't remember why, but that's the way the Linux kernel works.
> > 2 MB is way below that threshold, and 1 GB is above.
> >
> > You can also not set nr_overcommit_hugepages for those very large hugepages,
> only nr_hugepages.
> >
> > >
> > > So I think we can add some dict which stores the smallest valid
> > > hugepage size per arch. Then during config init, use the config's arch
> > > value to determine that size, and set the total hugepages allocation
> > > based on that size and the hugepages count set in the conf.yaml. Or
> > > maybe we can store the list of all valid hugepgage sizes per arch
> > > (which are also valid to be set post boot), allow for a new
> > > hugepage_size value on the conf.yaml, validate the input at config
> > > init, and then set according to those values. I prefer the former
> > > option though as I don't think the added flexibility offered by the
> > > latter seems important.
> >
> > I agree; the former option suffices.
> >
> > A tiny detail...
> > ARM supports multiple (4, I think) different hugepage sizes, where the
> smallest size is 64 KB.
> > So you might want to choose another hugepage size than the smallest; but I
> still agree with your proposed concept of using one specific hugepage size per
> arch.
> >
> > Like x86_64, ARM also supports 2 MB and 1 GB hugepage sizes, and 2 MB
> hugepages is also the typical default on Linux.
> >
> > I don't know which hugepage sizes are supported by other architectures.
> > It might only be 32-bit x86 that needs a different hugepage size than 2 MB.
> >
>
> Even for 32-bit x86, I think most distros now use PAE mode to allow physical
> addresses >4GB, so even then 32-bit hugepages are 2MB rather than 4MB.
In order to save you from more work on this patch, we could assume/hope that all architectures support 2 MB hugepages, and drop the discussed per-architecture size dict.
At least for until the assumption doesn't hold true anymore.
Then I only have two further comments to the patch:
1. Don't increase from 256 to 2560 hugepages (in dts/conf.yaml), unless there is a reason for it. If there is, please mention the increase and reason in the patch description.
2. Don't remove the size parameter from _configure_huge_pages() (in /dts/framework/testbed_model/linux_session.py); it might be useful later.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-08 9:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-04 15:31 Nicholas Pratte
2024-04-05 14:27 ` Patrick Robb
2024-04-06 8:47 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-06 19:20 ` Patrick Robb
2024-04-06 22:04 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-08 8:10 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-04-08 9:35 ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2024-04-09 16:57 ` Nicholas Pratte
2024-04-09 17:28 ` [PATCH v2] " Nicholas Pratte
2024-04-10 7:23 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-10 13:50 ` Patrick Robb
2024-04-10 10:43 ` Juraj Linkeš
2024-04-16 18:18 ` [PATCH v3] " Nicholas Pratte
2024-04-16 18:25 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-16 18:26 ` Nicholas Pratte
2024-04-17 13:46 ` Juraj Linkeš
2024-04-18 16:10 ` [PATCH v4] " Nicholas Pratte
2024-04-25 8:00 ` Juraj Linkeš
2024-04-29 17:26 ` Nicholas Pratte
2024-04-30 8:42 ` Juraj Linkeš
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