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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Honnappa Nagarahalli" <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, "nd" <nd@arm.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v6 1/9] eal: generic 64 bit counter
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 08:44:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F476@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <248621D2-C402-4DDE-92D8-F5377E816533@arm.com>

> From: Honnappa Nagarahalli [mailto:Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com]
> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2024 06.27
> 
> + Bruce for feedback on x86 architecture
> 
> > On May 16, 2024, at 10:30 PM, Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 May 2024 02:45:12 +0000
> > Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> + * A counter is 64 bit value that is safe from split read/write
> >>> + * on 32 bit platforms. It assumes that only one cpu at a time
> >> If we are defining the counter in this manner, then implementation cannot
> be generic. I think architectures will have constraints if they have to ensure
> the 64b variables are not split.
> >>
> >> I think we at least need the counter to be aligned on 8B boundary to have
> generic code.
> >
> > The C standard has always guaranteed that read and write to unsigned log
> will not be split.
> As I understand, this is true only if the variable is an atomic variable. If
> not, there is no difference between atomic variables and non-atomic variables.
> 
> > Therefore if arch is 64 bit native there is no need for atomics
> At least on ARM architecture, if the variable is not aligned on 8B boundary,
> the load or store are not atomic. I am sure it is the same on other
> architectures.

I guess it depends on the architecture's natural alignment size and the compiler - especially on 32 bit architectures, where the natural alignment size is 4 bytes.

We could play it safe and add alignment to the counter type:

#include <stdalign.h>
#ifdef RTE_ARCH_64
#if alignof(uint64_t) < sizeof(uint64_t)
typedef alignas(8) uint64_t rte_counter64_t;
#else
typedef uint64_t rte_counter64_t;
#endif
#else
#if alignof(RTE_ATOMIC(uint64_t)) < sizeof(uint64_t)
typedef alignas(8) RTE_ATOMIC(uint64_t) rte_counter64_t;
#else
typedef RTE_ATOMIC(uint64_t) rte_counter64_t;
#endif
#endif

This above is intentionally verbose, because some 32 bit architectures can implement 64 bit non-tearing counters without atomics [1], and the new 64 bit counter library should be prepared for accepting such optimizations.
[1]: https://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F433@smartserver.smartshare.dk/


Picking up on another branch of this discussion:
This 64 bit counter library is *not* an internal API. Applications should use it for their counters too.

> Bruce, any comments for x86?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-17  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 179+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-25 17:46 [RFC] net/af_packet: make stats reset reliable Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-26 11:33 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-26 13:37   ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-26 14:56     ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-28 15:42   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26 14:38 ` [RFC v2] " Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-26 14:47   ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-28 15:11   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-01 16:19     ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-02  5:51       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 14:22         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-02 15:59           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-02 18:20             ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-02 17:37           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 18:26             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-02 21:26               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 21:46                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07  7:23     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-07 13:49       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-07 14:51         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07 16:00           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-07 16:54             ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-07 18:47               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-08  7:48             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08  6:28           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08  6:25         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-07 19:19       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08  6:34         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08  7:10           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08  7:23             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26 21:28 ` [RFC] " Patrick Robb
2024-05-03 15:45 ` [RFC v3] " Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-03 22:00   ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07 13:48     ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-07 14:52       ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07 17:27         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-08  7:19     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08 15:23       ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-08 19:48         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-08 20:54           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-09  7:43             ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-09  9:29               ` Bruce Richardson
2024-05-09 11:37                 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-09 14:19                   ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-10  4:56                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10  9:14                       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-26  7:10                         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-26  7:07                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-26  7:03                   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-26  7:21         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-04 17:40           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07 15:27   ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-07 17:40     ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-10  5:01 ` [RFC 0/3] generic sw counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10  5:01   ` [RFC 1/3] ethdev: add internal helper of SW driver statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10  5:01   ` [RFC 2/3] net/af_packet: use SW stats helper Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10  5:01   ` [RFC 3/3] net/tap: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10 17:29   ` [RFC 0/3] generic sw counters Morten Brørup
2024-05-10 19:30     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52   ` [RFC v2 0/7] generic SW counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 1/7] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 19:36       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 2/7] ethdev: add internal helper of SW driver statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 3/7] net/af_packet: use SW stats helper Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 4/7] net/tap: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 5/7] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 6/7] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 7/7] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Generic SW counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15  9:30       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-15 15:03         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 16:18           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-26  7:34         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-26  6:45       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] ethdev: add internal helper of SW driver statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] net/af_packet: use SW stats helper Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] net/af_xdp: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40   ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Generic 64 bit counters for SW PMD's Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 1/8] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 2/8] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 3/8] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 4/8] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 5/8] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 6/8] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 7/8] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:41     ` [PATCH v4 8/8] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40   ` [PATCH v5 0/9] Generic 64 bit counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 1/9] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 18:22       ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-05-16 21:42         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  2:39           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-05-17  3:29             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  4:39               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 2/9] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 18:30       ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-05-17  0:19         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 3/9] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 4/9] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 5/9] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 6/9] test/pmd_ring: initialize mbufs Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 7/9] net/ring: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 8/9] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 9/9] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12   ` [PATCH v6 0/9] Generic 64 bit counters for SW drivers Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 1/9] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  2:45       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-05-17  3:30         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  4:26           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-05-17  6:44             ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2024-05-17 15:05               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 16:18               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-18 14:00                 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-19 15:13                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-19 17:10                     ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-19 22:49                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-20  7:57                         ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-17 15:07             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 2/9] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 3/9] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 4/9] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 13:34       ` Loftus, Ciara
2024-05-17 14:54         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 5/9] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 6/9] test/pmd_ring: initialize mbufs Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 7/9] net/ring: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 8/9] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 9/9] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35   ` [PATCH v7 0/9] Use weak atomic operations for SW PMD counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 1/9] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 2/9] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 3/9] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 4/9] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 5/9] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 6/9] test/pmd_ring: initialize mbufs Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 7/9] net/ring: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 8/9] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 9/9] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00   ` [PATCH v8 0/8] Common statistics routines for SW based PMD's Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 1/8] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 2/8] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 3/8] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 4/8] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 5/8] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 6/8] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 7/8] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 8/8] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16   ` [PATCH v9 0/8] Common statistics for SW PMD's Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 1/8] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22  8:31       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-22 15:33         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 18:09           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-22 19:53             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 20:56               ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-22 15:37         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 17:57           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-22 19:01             ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-05-22 19:51               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-26 14:46                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-26 14:39               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 2/8] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 3/8] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 4/8] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 5/8] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 6/8] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 7/8] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 8/8] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12   ` [PATCH v10 0/8] Common statistics for software PMD's Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 1/8] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 2/8] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 3/8] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 4/8] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 5/8] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 6/8] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 7/8] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 8/8] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger

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