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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Jerin Jacob" <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>,
	"David Marchand" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: "Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	<bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Sunil Kumar Kori" <skori@marvell.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/3] eal: mark API's as stable
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 16:18:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F6A6@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALBAE1O7k40nqiTDw1uY8mPbcHxtoRHS140O6mPcQEL4F4wvqQ@mail.gmail.com>

> From: Jerin Jacob [mailto:jerinjacobk@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2024 16.02
> 
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 3:14 PM Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: David Marchand [mailto:david.marchand@redhat.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2024 11.03
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 10:55 AM Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: David Marchand [mailto:david.marchand@redhat.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2024 09.59
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 8:10 PM Stephen Hemminger
> > > > > <stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The API's in ethtool from before 23.11 should be marked stable.
> > > > >
> > > > > EAL* ?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Should probably include the trace api's but that is more complex
> change.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the trace API itself it should be ok.
> > > >
> > > > No!
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Trace must remain experimental until controlled by a meson option, e.g.
> > > "enable_trace", whereby trace can be completely disabled and omitted from
> the
> > > compiled application/libraries/drivers at build time.
> > >
> > > This seems unrelated to marking the API stable as regardless of the
> > > API state at the moment, this code is always present.
> >
> > I cannot foresee if disabling trace at build time will require changes to
> the trace API. So I'm being cautious here.
> >
> > However, if Jerin (as author of the trace subsystem) foresees that it will
> be possible to disable trace at build time without affecting the trace API, I
> don't object to marking the trace API (or some of it) stable.
> 
> I don't for foresee any ABI changes when adding disabling trace
> compile time support.

Based on Jerin's feedback, I'm retracting my objection.

> However, I don't understand why we need to do
> that.

To reduce code size.
Relevant for embedded/memory-constrained systems.

> In the sense, fast path functions are already having an option
> to compile out.
> Slow path functions can be disabled at runtime at the cost of 1 cycle
> as instrumentation cost. Having said that, I don't have any concern
> about disabling trace as an option.

Great.

> 
> 
> >
> > Before doing that, rte_trace_mode_get/set() and the accompanying enum
> rte_trace_mode should be changed to rte_trace_config_get/set() using a new
> struct rte_trace_config (containing the enum rte_trace_mode, and expandable
> with new fields as the need arises). This will prepare for e.g. tracing to
> other destinations than system memory, such as a remote trace collector on the
> network, like SYSLOG.

I'm also retracting this precondition...

If the need for further trace configuration should ever arise, rte_trace_config_get/set() can be added later.
And rte_trace_mode_get/set(), if not marked as experimental anymore, will be kept for backwards compatibility.

> >
> > > Patches welcome if you want it stripped.
> >
> > Don't have time myself, so I suggested it as a code challenge instead. :-)
> >

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-05 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-04 18:08 Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-04 18:08 ` [PATCH 1/3] eal: make rte_cpu_get_intrinsics_support stable Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-04 18:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] eal: mark rte_lcore_register_usage_cb stable Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-04 18:08 ` [PATCH 3/3] eal: mark rte_memzone_max_get/set stable Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-05  6:07 ` [PATCH 0/3] eal: mark API's as stable Morten Brørup
2024-09-05  7:58 ` David Marchand
2024-09-05  8:55   ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-05  9:03     ` David Marchand
2024-09-05  9:44       ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-05 14:01         ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-05 14:18           ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2024-09-08 23:58             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-06  8:54           ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-09-06 10:04             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-06 14:12               ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-09-06 14:42                 ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-09  4:48                   ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-06  9:34   ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-09-06  9:48     ` David Marchand
2024-09-06 11:00       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-09-06 13:11     ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-06 14:03       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-09-09  4:46         ` Jerin Jacob

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