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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Robin Jarry" <rjarry@redhat.com>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Wathsala Vithanage" <wathsala.vithanage@arm.com>,
	"Min Zhou" <zhoumin@loongson.cn>,
	"David Christensen" <drc@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Stanislaw Kardach" <stanislaw.kardach@gmail.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	<konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	"Vipin Varghese" <vipin.varghese@amd.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH dpdk v2 03/16] net: add structure for ipv6 addresses
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:37:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F7C0@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D4SEBU4ZXLCU.15VI126YYHI7U@redhat.com>

> From: Robin Jarry [mailto:rjarry@redhat.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2024 22.08
> 
> Morten Brørup, Oct 06, 2024 at 10:18:
> > This has been discussed before, but I want to double check...
> >
> > If - sometime in the future - we want to add a union to offer a 2-
> byte
> > access variant and make the structure to 2-byte aligned (which is the
> > common case in Ethernet packets), it will break both API and ABI.
> This
> > seems unlikely to get accepted at a later time, so I think we are
> > - right now - in a situation where it's now or never:
> >
> > struct rte_ipv6_addr {
> > 	__extension__
> > 	union {
> > 		unsigned char a[RTE_IPV6_ADDR_SIZE];
> > 		uint16_t      w[RTE_IPV6_ADDR_SIZE / 2];
> > 	};
> > };
> >
> > Unless some of the CPU folks want the 2-byte aligned variant, stick
> > with what you offered.
> 
> I was also thinking the same. I could have added an unnamed union which
> only contains one field.
> 
> However, it does not make much sense if we never want to change the
> default alignment.
> 
> Important note: DPDK is compiled with the following C flags:
> 
>   -Wno-address-of-packed-member
> 
> Added in 2017 https://git.dpdk.org/dpdk/commit/?id=95cd37070af44
> 
> If we had struct rte_ipv6_addr aligned on 2 bytes (or more),
> applications that do not silence that warning would have a hard time.
> Example in grout:
> 
> ../modules/ip6/datapath/ip6_input.c:99:54: error: taking address of
> packed member of ‘struct rte_ipv6_hdr’ may result in an unaligned
> pointer value [-Werror=address-of-packed-member]
>    99 |                 nh = ip6_route_lookup(iface->vrf_id, &ip-
> >dst_addr);
>       |
> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't understand the choice of packing for these types...

Why are the IPv4 [ipv4h] and IPv6 header [ipv6h] types packed? Is it so they can be stored on unaligned addresses?

E.g. the IPv4 header's natural alignment is 4 byte (due to the rte_be32_t src_addr, dst_addr fields). The IPv4 header is most often 2 byte aligned, being located after an Ethernet header.

Maybe they should be 2-byte aligned, like the Ethernet address type [etha] and the Ethernet header type [ethh].

The VLAN tag type [vlanh] is packed. Why?

I wonder if the compiler would spit out the same warnings if the above types were __rte_aligned(2) instead of __rte_packed.

> 
> I'd say that it is better to keep it simple :)

Yes, I don't see the CPU folks screaming about performance for this patch, so let's remain ignorant about the reasons for packing and make the safe choice: Keep the IPv6 addr type as you suggested, and do not make it 2-byte aligned by adding the unnamed union with the uint16_t field.

Also, I think we are too close to the 24.11 deadline to go deep enough into this to make qualified decisions about changing it.

For educational purposes, sometime in the future, I would like to learn about the choices of packing and 2-byte alignment questioned above.

[ipv4h] https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v24.07/source/lib/net/rte_ip.h#L41
[ipv6h]: https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v24.07/source/lib/net/rte_ip.h#L526
[etha]: https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v24.07/source/lib/net/rte_ether.h#L74
[ethh]: https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v24.07/source/lib/net/rte_ether.h#L293
[vlanh]: https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v24.07/source/lib/net/rte_ether.h#L304


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-11 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-21 16:25 [PATCH dpdk v1 00/15] IPv6 APIs overhaul Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 01/15] net: split raw checksum functions in separate header Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 02/15] net: split ipv6 symbols " Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 03/15] net: add structure for ipv6 addresses Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 04/15] net: use ipv6 structure for header addresses Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 05/15] fib6,rib6,lpm6: use ipv6 addr struct Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 06/15] net: add ipv6 address utilities Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 07/15] fib6,rib6,lpm6: use ipv6 utils Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 08/15] graph,node: use ipv6 addr struct and utils Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 09/15] pipeline: use ipv6 addr struct Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 10/15] ipsec: " Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 11/15] thash: " Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 12/15] gro: " Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 13/15] rte_flow: " Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 14/15] rib6,fib6,lpm6: remove duplicate constants Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 16:25 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 15/15] net: add utilities for well known ipv6 address types Robin Jarry
2024-08-21 22:28 ` [PATCH dpdk v1 00/15] IPv6 APIs overhaul Morten Brørup
2024-08-22 14:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-08-22 15:13   ` Morten Brørup
2024-08-22 15:27     ` Robin Jarry
2024-08-22 18:41       ` Morten Brørup
2024-08-22 15:14   ` Robin Jarry
2024-08-22 15:16   ` Robin Jarry
2024-10-01  8:17 ` [PATCH dpdk v2 00/16] " Robin Jarry
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 01/16] net: split raw checksum functions in separate header Robin Jarry
2024-10-03 23:12     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 02/16] net: split ipv6 symbols " Robin Jarry
2024-10-03 23:15     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 03/16] net: add structure for ipv6 addresses Robin Jarry
2024-10-03 23:18     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-04 11:59       ` Robin Jarry
2024-10-06  8:18     ` Morten Brørup
2024-10-10 20:08       ` Robin Jarry
2024-10-11 12:37         ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2024-10-11 17:02           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 04/16] net: use ipv6 structure for header addresses Robin Jarry
2024-10-03 23:20     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-04 18:01     ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-04 20:04       ` Robin Jarry
2024-10-06 21:03         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 05/16] fib6,rib6,lpm6: use ipv6 addr struct Robin Jarry
2024-10-03 23:21     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 06/16] net: add ipv6 address utilities Robin Jarry
2024-10-01 15:35     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-03 23:22     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 07/16] fib6,rib6,lpm6: use ipv6 utils Robin Jarry
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 08/16] graph,node: use ipv6 addr struct and utils Robin Jarry
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 09/16] pipeline: use ipv6 addr struct Robin Jarry
2024-10-03 23:23     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-04 11:55       ` Robin Jarry
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 10/16] ipsec: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 11/16] thash: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 12/16] gro: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 13/16] rte_flow: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 14/16] rib6,fib6,lpm6: remove duplicate constants Robin Jarry
2024-10-03 23:12     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-04 11:54       ` Robin Jarry
2024-10-04 16:16         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 15/16] net: add utilities for well known ipv6 address types Robin Jarry
2024-10-03 23:24     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-01  8:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 16/16] ipv6: add function to check ipv6 version Robin Jarry
2024-10-06  9:02     ` Morten Brørup
2024-10-10 20:00       ` Robin Jarry
2024-10-11 12:05         ` Morten Brørup
2024-10-10 15:26     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-06  9:04   ` [PATCH dpdk v2 00/16] IPv6 APIs overhaul Morten Brørup
2024-10-10 15:27   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-10 19:41 ` [PATCH dpdk v3 00/17] " Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 01/17] net: split raw checksum functions in separate header Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 02/17] net: split ipv6 symbols " Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 03/17] net: add structure for ipv6 addresses Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 04/17] net: add ipv6 address utilities Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 05/17] net: use struct rte_ipv6_addr for header addresses Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 06/17] fib6,rib6,lpm6: use struct rte_ipv6_addr Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 07/17] fib6,rib6,lpm6: use ipv6 utils Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 08/17] rib6,fib6,lpm6: remove duplicate constants Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 09/17] cmdline: replace in6_addr with rte_ipv6_addr Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 10/17] graph,node: use struct rte_ipv6_addr and utils Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 11/17] pipeline: use struct rte_ipv6_addr Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 12/17] ipsec, security: use struct rte_ipv6_addr and utils Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 13/17] thash: use struct rte_ipv6_addr Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 14/17] gro: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 15/17] rte_flow: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 16/17] net: add utilities for well known ipv6 address types Robin Jarry
2024-10-10 19:41   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 17/17] ipv6: add function to check ipv6 version Robin Jarry
2024-10-15 17:12     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-17 13:52   ` [PATCH dpdk v3 00/17] IPv6 APIs overhaul David Marchand
2024-10-17 18:03     ` Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17 ` [PATCH dpdk v4 " Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 01/17] net: split raw checksum functions in separate header Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 02/17] net: split IPv4 and IPv6 symbols in separate headers Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 03/17] net: add IPv6 address structure and utils Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 04/17] net: use IPv6 structure for packet headers Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 05/17] lpm6: use IPv6 address structure and utils Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 06/17] fib6: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 07/17] rib6: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 08/17] cmdline: use IPv6 address structure Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 09/17] node: use IPv6 address structure and utils Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 10/17] pipeline: use IPv6 structures Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 11/17] ipsec: use IPv6 address structure Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 12/17] security: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 13/17] hash: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 14/17] gro: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 15/17] flow: " Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 16/17] net: add utilities for well known IPv6 address types Robin Jarry
2024-10-18  9:17   ` [PATCH dpdk v4 17/17] net: add function to check IPv6 version Robin Jarry

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