From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: RE: RFC - Tap io_uring PMD
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 00:22:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F885@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241105105839.36c85e8f@hermes.local>
> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2024 19.59
>
> On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 23:28:49 +0100
> Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably the hardest part of using io_uring is figuring out how
> to
> > > > > collect
> > > > > completions. The simplest way would be to handle all
> completions rx
> > > and
> > > > > tx
> > > > > in the rx_burst function.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't mix RX and TX, unless explicitly requested by the
> > > application through the recently introduced "mbuf recycle" feature.
> > >
> > > The issue is Rx and Tx share a single fd and ioring for completion
> is
> > > per fd.
> > > The implementation for ioring came from the storage side so
> initially
> > > it was for fixing
> > > the broken Linux AIO support.
> > >
> > > Some other devices only have single interrupt or ring shared with
> rx/tx
> > > so not unique.
> > > Virtio, netvsc, and some NIC's.
> > >
> > > The problem is that if Tx completes descriptors then there needs to
> be
> > > locking
> > > to prevent Rx thread and Tx thread overlapping. And a spin lock is
> a
> > > performance buzz kill.
> >
> > Brainstorming a bit here...
> > What if the new TAP io_uring PMD is designed to use two io_urings per
> port, one for RX and another one for TX on the same TAP interface?
> > This requires that a TAP interface can be referenced via two file
> descriptors (one fd for the RX io_uring and another fd for the TX
> io_uring), e.g. by using dup() to create the additional file
> descriptor. I don't know if this is possible, and if it works with
> io_uring.
>
> There a couple of problems with multiple fd's.
> - multiple fds pointing to same internal tap queue are not going to
> get completed separately.
> - when multi-proc is supported, limit of 253 fd's in Unix domain IPC
> comes into play
> - tap does not support tx only fd for queues. If fd is queue of tap,
> receive fan out will go to it.
>
> If DPDK was more flexible, harvesting of completion could be done via
> another thread but that is not general enough
> to work transparently with all applications. Existing TAP device plays
> with SIGIO, but signals are slower.
I have now read up a bit about io_uring, so here are some thoughts and ideas...
To avoid locking, there should only be one writer of io_uring Submission Queue Events (SQE), and only one reader of io_uring Completion Queue Events (CQE) per TAP interface.
From what I understand, the TAP io_uring PMD only supports one RX queue per port and one TX queue per port (i.e. per TAP interface). We can take advantage of this:
We can use rte_tx() as the Submission Queue writer and rte_rx() as the Completion Queue reader.
The PMD must have two internal rte_rings for respectively RX refill and TX completion events.
rte_rx() does the following:
Read the Completion Queue;
If RX CQE, pass the data to the next RX MBUF, convert the RX CQE to an RX Refill SQE and enqueue it in the RX Refill rte_ring;
If TX CQE, enqueue it in the TX Completion rte_ring;
Repeat until nb_pkts RX CQEs have been received, or no more CQE's are available. (This complies with the rte_rx() API, which says that less than nb_pkts is only returned if no more packets are available for receiving.)
rte_tx() does the following:
Pass the data from the TX MBUFs to io_uring TX SQEs, using the TX CQEs in the TX Completion rte_ring, and write them to the io_uring Submission Queue.
Dequeue any RX Refill SQEs from the RX Refill rte_ring and write them to the io_uring Submission Queue.
This means that the application must call both rte_rx() and rte_tx(); but it would be allowed to call rte_tx() with zero MBUFs.
The internal rte_rings are Single-Producer, Single-Consumer, and large enough to hold all TX+RX descriptors.
Alternatively, we can let rte_rx() do all the work and use an rte_ring in the opposite direction...
The PMD must have two internal rte_rings, one for TX MBUFs and one for TX CQEs. (The latter can be a stack, or any other type of container.)
rte_tx() only does the following:
Enqueue the TX MBUFs to the TX MBUF rte_ring.
rte_rx() does the following:
Dequeue any TX MBUFs from the TX MBUF rte_ring, convert them to TX SQEs, using the TX CQEs in the TX Completion rte_ring, and write them to the io_uring Submission Queue.
Read the Completion Queue;
If TX CQE, enqueue it in the TX Completion rte_ring;
If RX CQE, pass the data to the next RX MBUF, convert the RX CQE to an RX Refill SQE and write it to the io_uring Submission Queue;
Repeat until nb_pkts RX CQEs have been received, or no more CQE's are available. (This complies with the rte_rx() API, which says that less than nb_pkts is only returned if no more packets are available for receiving.)
With the second design, the PMD can support multiple TX queues by using a Multi-Producer rte_ring for the TX MBUFs.
But it postpones all transmits until rte_rx() is called, so I don't really like it.
Of the two designs, the first feels more natural to me.
And if some application absolutely needs multiple TX queues, it can implement a Multi-Producer, Single-Consumer rte_ring as an intermediate step in front of the PMD's single TX queue.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-05 23:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-30 21:56 Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-31 10:27 ` Morten Brørup
2024-11-01 0:34 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-11-02 22:28 ` Morten Brørup
2024-11-05 18:58 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-11-05 23:22 ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2024-11-05 23:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-11-05 23:54 ` Morten Brørup
2024-11-06 0:52 ` Igor Gutorov
2024-11-07 16:30 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-11-06 10:30 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-11-06 0:46 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-11-06 7:46 ` Maxime Coquelin
2024-11-07 21:51 ` Morten Brørup
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