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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, <shperetz@nvidia.com>, <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	<bruce.richardson@intel.com>, <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v7 3/7] mbuf: record mbuf operations history
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 09:55:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F654D9@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2943496.bcXerOTE6V@thomas>

> From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> Sent: Friday, 17 October 2025 09.32
> 
> 17/10/2025 00:29, Morten Brørup:
> > > +	/* Calculate total allocated mbufs */
> > > +	uint64_t total_allocated = 0;
> > > +	for (enum rte_mbuf_history_op op = RTE_MBUF_HISTORY_OP_LIB_ALLOC;
> > > +			op < RTE_MBUF_HISTORY_OP_MAX; op++)
> > > +		total_allocated += stats[op];
> >
> > I might be overly cautious here, but the app (or driver) might have a
> bug, and mark the mbuf with OP_APP_FREE (or OP_PMD_FREE) without
> actually freeing the mbuf back to the mempool.
> 
> Yes
> 
> > So you should only trust the mempool library (OP_LIB_FREE) to mark
> the mbuf as actually freed. I.e. start the loop at op =
> RTE_MBUF_HISTORY_OP_LIB_FREE.
> 
> We cannot because these statistics are about the latest state.
> So if the app marks the mbuf as freed after the library,
> they should be reported as non allocated.

The app cannot mark the mbuf after calling rte_mbuf_raw_free_bulk(). That would be a "use after free" bug.

> 
> > The app/driver should eventually call rte_mbuf_raw_free_bulk() or
> similar to release the mbuf back to the mempool.
> 
> Because we don't know in which order the mbufs are marked
> in the call stack, we must trust these free ops.
> 
> I really think there is room for improvements in the details of the
> marks
> and their usage. I suggest we merge and play with this experimental
> feature,
> and discuss in the next cycle how to improve the markers.
> 

Since it's only a minor detail in the dump function that I'm having minor doubts about, merging as-is is OK with me.

It's more important getting the feature included than making it perfect at its introduction - as you mention yourself: it's an experimental feature.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-17  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-16  7:29 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce mempool object new debug capabilities Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mempool: record mempool objects operations history Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] drivers: add mempool history compilation flag Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] net/mlx5: mark an operation in mempool object's history Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] app/testpmd: add testpmd command to dump mempool history Shani Peretz
2025-06-16  7:29 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] usertool: add a script to parse mempool history dump Shani Peretz
2025-06-16 15:30 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce mempool object new debug capabilities Stephen Hemminger
2025-06-19 12:57   ` Morten Brørup
2025-07-07  5:46     ` Shani Peretz
2025-07-07  5:45   ` Shani Peretz
2025-07-07 12:10     ` Morten Brørup
2025-07-19 14:39       ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-25 11:27         ` Slava Ovsiienko
2025-09-01 15:34           ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-16 15:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] add mbuf " Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 21:17     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-09-16 21:33       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-17  1:22         ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-17 14:46     ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-19  9:14       ` Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] net/mlx5: mark an operation in mbuf's history Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 21:14     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-09-16 21:31       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-17 15:04         ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-09-16 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] app/testpmd: add testpmd command to dump mbuf history Shani Peretz
2025-09-16 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] usertool: add a script to parse mbuf history dump Shani Peretz
2025-09-30 23:25 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] add mbuf debug capabilities Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] mbuf: move header include for logs Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-01  0:12     ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-02  7:37     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-02 21:23       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 18:39       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 20:08         ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-13 21:07           ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14 10:04             ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] ethdev: mark mbufs in burst functions Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-02  7:44     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-13 15:32       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] app/testpmd: add commands to dump mbuf history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-01  8:20     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-13 15:31       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-09-30 23:25   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] usertools/mbuf: parse mbuf history dump Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-02  8:07     ` Robin Jarry
2025-10-13 21:16 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] add mbuf debug capabilities Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] doc: explain debug options in mbuf guide Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] mbuf: move header include for logs Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 3/7] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] ethdev: mark mbufs in burst functions Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] app/testpmd: use space separator in dump commands Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] app/testpmd: add commands to dump mbuf history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-13 21:16   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] usertools/mbuf: parse mbuf history dump Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] add mbuf debug capabilities Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 1/7] doc: explain debug options in mbuf guide Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 2/7] mbuf: move header include for logs Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  8:47     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 3/7] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  9:59     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-14 12:03       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14 12:31         ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 4/7] ethdev: mark mbufs in burst functions Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 5/7] app/testpmd: use space separator in dump commands Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 6/7] app/testpmd: add commands to dump mbuf history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  8:45     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-14  9:43       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  9:48         ` Bruce Richardson
2025-10-14  9:55           ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14  6:58   ` [PATCH v5 7/7] usertools/mbuf: parse mbuf history dump Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14 12:33 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] add mbuf debug capabilities Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14 12:33   ` [PATCH v6 1/7] doc: explain debug options in mbuf guide Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14 12:33   ` [PATCH v6 2/7] mbuf: move header include for logs Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14 12:33   ` [PATCH v6 3/7] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16  9:04     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-16  9:53       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14 12:33   ` [PATCH v6 4/7] ethdev: mark mbufs in burst functions Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16  9:26     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-14 12:33   ` [PATCH v6 5/7] app/testpmd: use space separator in dump commands Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-15 17:52     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-15 19:10       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16  9:28     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-14 12:33   ` [PATCH v6 6/7] app/testpmd: add commands to dump mbuf history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14 12:33   ` [PATCH v6 7/7] usertools/mbuf: parse mbuf history dump Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-14 14:03     ` Robin Jarry
2025-10-15 17:50     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-15 19:11       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-15 19:41         ` Robin Jarry
2025-10-16  8:10           ` Bruce Richardson
2025-10-16  8:42             ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16 12:07               ` Robin Jarry
2025-10-16  9:46     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-16 20:34 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] add mbuf debug capabilities Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16 20:34   ` [PATCH v7 1/7] doc: explain debug options in mbuf guide Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16 22:30     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-16 20:34   ` [PATCH v7 2/7] mbuf: move header include for logs Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16 20:34   ` [PATCH v7 3/7] mbuf: record mbuf operations history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16 22:29     ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-17  7:32       ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-17  7:55         ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2025-10-17  9:09           ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16 20:34   ` [PATCH v7 4/7] ethdev: mark mbufs in burst functions Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16 20:34   ` [PATCH v7 5/7] app/testpmd: use space separator in dump commands Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16 20:34   ` [PATCH v7 6/7] app/testpmd: add commands to dump mbuf history Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-16 20:34   ` [PATCH v7 7/7] usertools/mbuf: parse mbuf history dump Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-17 16:10   ` [PATCH v7 0/7] add mbuf debug capabilities Thomas Monjalon

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