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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Konstantin Ananyev" <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>,
	"Andrew Rybchenko" <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"Ivan Malov" <ivan.malov@arknetworks.am>,
	"Chengwen Feng" <fengchengwen@huawei.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v8 3/3] mbuf: optimize reset of reinitialized mbufs
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 20:45:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F654DD@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2602540.zToM8qfIzz@thomas>

> From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2025 18.59
> 
> 09/10/2025 19:35, Morten Brørup:
> > > From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> > > > +		m->pkt_len = 0;
> > > > +		m->tx_offload = 0;
> > > > +		m->vlan_tci = 0;
> > > > +		m->vlan_tci_outer = 0;
> > > > +		m->port = RTE_MBUF_PORT_INVALID;
> > >
> > > Have you considered doing all initialization using 64-bit stores?
> It's
> > > generally cheaper to do a single 64-bit store than e.g. set of 16-
> bit
> > > ones.
> >
> > The code is basically copy-paste from rte_pktmbuf_reset().
> > I kept it the same way for readability.
> >
> > > This also means that we could remove the restriction on having
> refcnt
> > > and
> > > nb_segs already set. As in PMDs, a single store can init data_off,
> > > ref_cnt,
> > > nb_segs and port.
> >
> > Yes, I have given the concept a lot of thought already.
> > If we didn't require mbufs residing in the mempool to have any fields
> initialized, specifically "next" and "nb_segs", it would improve
> performance for drivers freeing mbufs back to the mempool, because
> writing to the mbufs would no longer be required at that point; the
> mbufs could simply be freed back to the mempool. Instead, we would
> require the driver to initialize these fields - which it probably does
> on RX anyway, if it supports segmented packets.
> > But I consider this concept a major API change, also affecting
> applications assuming that these fields are initialized when allocating
> raw mbufs from the mempool. So I haven't pursued it.
> >
> > >
> > > Similarly for packet_type and pkt_len, and data_len/vlan_tci and
> rss
> > > fields
> > > etc. For max performance, the whole of the mbuf cleared here can be
> > > done in
> > > 40 bytes, or 5 64-bit stores. If we do the stores in order,
> possibly
> > > the
> > > compiler can even opportunistically coalesce more stores, so we
> could
> > > even
> > > end up getting 128-bit or larger stores depending on the ISA
> compiled
> > > for.
> > > [Maybe the compiler will do this even if they are not in order, but
> I'd
> > > like to maximize my chances here! :-)]
> 
> Morten, you didn't reply to this.
> Can we optimize more with big stores?
> 

I did reply:
https://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F654BB@smartserver.smartshare.dk/

Essentially, it's a different type of optimization, which should also be applied to rte_pktmbuf_reset().
I have postponed such optimization for later. Don't have time to do it properly now.

-Morten


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-19 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-21 15:02 [PATCH v5 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling " Morten Brørup
2025-08-21 15:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] mbuf: de-inline sanity checking a reinitialized mbuf Morten Brørup
2025-08-21 15:02 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] promote reinitialized mbuf free and alloc bulk functions as stable Morten Brørup
2025-08-21 15:02 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] mbuf: no need to reset all fields on reinitialized mbufs Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 12:47 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling of " Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 12:47   ` [PATCH v6 1/3] mbuf: de-inline sanity checking a reinitialized mbuf Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 14:26     ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 12:47   ` [PATCH v6 2/3] mbuf: promote raw free and alloc bulk functions as stable Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 12:47   ` [PATCH v6 3/3] mbuf: no need to reset all fields on reinitialized mbufs Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 23:45 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling of " Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 23:45   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] mbuf: de-inline sanity checking a reinitialized mbuf Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 23:45   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] mbuf: promote raw free and alloc bulk functions as stable Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 23:45   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] mbuf: optimize reset of reinitialized mbufs Morten Brørup
2025-08-23  6:29 ` [PATCH v8 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling " Morten Brørup
2025-08-23  6:30   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] mbuf: de-inline sanity checking a reinitialized mbuf Morten Brørup
2025-10-09 16:49     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-10-09 17:12       ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-09 17:29         ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-09 17:55           ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-19 20:22             ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-08-23  6:30   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] mbuf: promote raw free and alloc bulk functions as stable Morten Brørup
2025-10-09 16:53     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-08-23  6:30   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] mbuf: optimize reset of reinitialized mbufs Morten Brørup
2025-08-23 14:28     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-09 17:15     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-10-09 17:35       ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-10  7:43         ` Bruce Richardson
2025-10-10  9:22           ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-19 16:59         ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-19 18:45           ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2025-10-19 20:45       ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-06 14:43   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling " Morten Brørup
2025-10-19 20:42   ` Thomas Monjalon

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