From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
"Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>,
"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@microsoft.com>,
"konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
nd <nd@arm.com>,
"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: rte_atomic_*_explicit
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 16:58:54 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM8PR08MB5810B78888DCBC1F80543C5398792@AM8PR08MB5810.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97893aa5-4e13-4761-9fcb-214b3819bc16@lysator.liu.se>
<snip>
> >
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:10:47PM +0100, Morten Br�rup wrote:
> >>>> From: Mattias R�nnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2024 19.54
> >>>>
> >>>> Why do rte_stdatomic.h functions have the suffix "_explicit"?
> >>>> Especially
> >>>> since there aren't any wrappers for the implicit variants.
> >>>>
> >>>> More to type, more to read.
> >>>
> >>> They have the "_explicit" suffix to make their names similar to
> >>> those in
> >> stdatomic.h.
> >>>
> >>> You might consider their existence somewhat temporary until C11
> >>> stdatomics
> >> can be fully phased in, so there's another argument for similar
> >> names. (This probably does not happen as long as compilers generate
> >> slower code for C11 stdatomics than with their atomic built-ins.)
> >>
> >> yes, there was feedback at the time it was.
> >>
> >> * we should *not* have non-explicit versions of the macros
> >> * the atomic generic functions should be named to match C11 standard
> >> with a rte_ prefix.
> > This was mainly done to ensure that users think through the memory
> ordering they want to use. This also matches with the compiler atomic built-
> ins. Without explicit, it is sequentially consistent memory order.
> >
>
> "This" is referring to the first bullet only, correct?
>
> You don't have to distinguish between implicit and explicit if you only have
> explicit.
Agree on your thought.
The '_explicit' was added to be aligned with the standard atomic API naming. The thought was - if we are aligned on the names, it needs less explanation for users.
>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> When was this API introduced? Shouldn't it say "experimental"
> >>>> somewhere?
> >>>
> >>> They were introduced as part of the migration to C11.
> >>> I suppose they were not marked experimental because they replaced
> >> something we didn't want anymore (the compiler built-ins for atomics, e.g.
> >> __atomic_load_n()). I don't recall if we discussed experimental marking or
> not.
> >>
> >> i don't think we discussed it since they're wrapper macros.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Reverse paper trail:
> >>> https://git.dpdk.org/dpdk/log/lib/eal/include/rte_stdatomic.h
> >>> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/1692738045-32363-2-git
> >>> -
> >> send-email-roretzla@linux.microsoft.com/
> >>> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/1692738045-32363-2-git
> >>> -
> >> send-email-roretzla@linux.microsoft.com/
> >>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-26 16:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-25 18:53 rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-25 22:10 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Morten Brørup
2024-01-25 22:34 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-26 1:37 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-01-26 8:12 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-26 16:58 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli [this message]
2024-01-26 21:03 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-26 8:07 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-26 10:52 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Morten Brørup
2024-01-26 21:35 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-27 20:34 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-30 18:36 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-31 15:52 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-31 17:34 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Morten Brørup
2024-01-27 19:08 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
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