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From: "Van Haaren, Harry" <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>,
	mattias.ronnblom <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	"McDaniel, Timothy" <timothy.mcdaniel@intel.com>,
	Pavan Nikhilesh <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>,
	Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	Liang Ma <liangma@liangbit.com>
Cc: "Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"Gujjar, Abhinandan S" <abhinandan.gujjar@intel.com>,
	"Carrillo, Erik G" <erik.g.carrillo@intel.com>,
	"Jayatheerthan, Jay" <jay.jayatheerthan@intel.com>,
	dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] eventdev: allow for event devices requiring maintenance
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 16:02:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN0PR11MB5712A5D894AD0BB7C1A2B6FFD7879@BN0PR11MB5712.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALBAE1N6-Z1Pk4rF-fqCrY+BLEQs1-2HWwXgy7om0zBgDGG-Pw@mail.gmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 4:18 PM
> To: mattias.ronnblom <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>; Van Haaren, Harry
> <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>; McDaniel, Timothy
> <timothy.mcdaniel@intel.com>; Pavan Nikhilesh <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>;
> Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>; Liang Ma
> <liangma@liangbit.com>
> Cc: Richardson, Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; Jerin Jacob
> <jerinj@marvell.com>; Gujjar, Abhinandan S <abhinandan.gujjar@intel.com>;
> Carrillo, Erik G <erik.g.carrillo@intel.com>; Jayatheerthan, Jay
> <jay.jayatheerthan@intel.com>; dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] eventdev: allow for event devices requiring
> maintenance
> 
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:33 PM Mattias Rönnblom
> <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2021-10-29 16:38, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:02 PM Mattias Rönnblom
> > > <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com> wrote:
> > >> Extend Eventdev API to allow for event devices which require various
> > >> forms of internal processing to happen, even when events are not
> > >> enqueued to or dequeued from a port.
> > >>
> > >> PATCH v1:
> > >>    - Adapt to the move of fastpath function pointers out of
> > >>      rte_eventdev struct
> > >>    - Attempt to clarify how often the application is expected to
> > >>      call rte_event_maintain()
> > >>    - Add trace point
> > >> RFC v2:
> > >>    - Change rte_event_maintain() return type to be consistent
> > >>      with the documentation.
> > >>    - Remove unused typedef from eventdev_pmd.h.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Mattias Rönnblom <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
> > >> Tested-by: Richard Eklycke <richard.eklycke@ericsson.com>
> > >> Tested-by: Liron Himi <lironh@marvell.com>
> > >> ---
> > >>
> > >> +/**
> > >> + * Maintain an event device.
> > >> + *
> > >> + * This function is only relevant for event devices which has the
> > >> + * RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_REQUIRES_MAINT flag set. Such devices require
> the
> > >> + * application to call rte_event_maintain() on a port during periods
> > >> + * which it is neither enqueuing nor dequeuing events from that
> > >> + * port.
> > > # We need to add  "by the same core". Right? As other core such as
> > > service core can not call rte_event_maintain()
> >
> >
> > Do you mean by the same lcore thread that "owns" (dequeues and enqueues
> > to) the port? Yes. I thought that was implicit, since eventdev port are
> > not MT safe. I'll try to figure out some wording that makes that more clear.
> 
> OK.
> 
> >
> >
> > > # Also, Incase of Adapters enqueue() happens, right? If so, either
> > > above text is not correct.
> > > # @Erik Gabriel Carrillo  @Jayatheerthan, Jay @Gujjar, Abhinandan S
> > > Please review 3/3 patch on adapter change.
> > > Let me know you folks are OK with change or not or need more time to
> analyze.
> > >
> > > If it need only for the adapter subsystem then can we make it an
> > > internal API between DSW and adapters?
> >
> >
> > No, it's needed for any producer-only eventdev ports, including any such
> > ports used by the application.
> 
> 
> In that case, the code path in testeventdev, eventdev_pipeline, etc needs
> to be updated. I am worried about the performance impact for the drivers they
> don't have such limitations.

Applications can identify if this "maintain()" call is required by
the RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_REQUIRES_MAINT flag correct?

So the call through the Eventdev function pointer could be branched over at application level if required.
Or if the PMD doesn't actually set the ".maintain" function pointer to a valid value, then it will just return?

Is it easy/possible to test/benchmark this with test-eventdev to measure perf-impact?


> Why not have an additional config option in port_config which says
> it is a producer-only port by an application and takes care of the driver.

The "port hints" that was recently added could be used to communicate such a concept.
http://patches.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/20211014145141.679372-1-harry.van.haaren@intel.com/

Note that today the "port hints" are *hints*, and must not be *relied on* to do anything.
This may be useful as (one of) the tools/concepts we could use to try abstract the "maintain" requirement.


> In the current adapters code, you are calling maintain() when enqueue
> returns zero.
> In such a case, if the port is configured as producer and then
> internally it can call maintain.
>
> Thoughts from other eventdev maintainers?
> Cc+ @Van Haaren, Harry  @Richardson, Bruce @Gujjar, Abhinandan S
> @Jayatheerthan, Jay @Erik Gabriel Carrillo @McDaniel, Timothy @Pavan
> Nikhilesh  @Hemant Agrawal @Liang Ma

Above, thanks for the +CC.

<snip remaining patch>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-29 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-08 17:56 [dpdk-dev] [RFC " Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-08 17:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 2/3] event/dsw: make use of eventdev maintenance facility Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-08 17:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 3/3] eventdev: allow devices requiring maintenance with adapters Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-08 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 1/3] eventdev: allow for event devices requiring maintenance Jerin Jacob
2020-04-09 12:21   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-09 13:32     ` Jerin Jacob
2020-04-09 14:02       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-10 13:00         ` Jerin Jacob
2020-04-14 15:57           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-14 16:15             ` Jerin Jacob
2020-04-14 17:55               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-16 17:19                 ` Jerin Jacob
2020-04-20  9:05                   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2020-05-13 18:56                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-08-02 16:14                   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v2 " Mattias Rönnblom
2021-08-02 16:15                     ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v2 2/3] event/dsw: make use of eventdev maintenance facility Mattias Rönnblom
2021-08-02 16:15                     ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v2 3/3] eventdev: have adapters support device maintenance Mattias Rönnblom
2021-08-03  4:39                     ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v2 1/3] eventdev: allow for event devices requiring maintenance Jerin Jacob
2021-08-03  8:26                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-08-03 10:06                         ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2021-10-26 17:31                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH " Mattias Rönnblom
2021-10-26 17:31                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/3] event/dsw: make use of eventdev maintenance facility Mattias Rönnblom
2021-10-26 17:31                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/3] eventdev: have adapters support device maintenance Mattias Rönnblom
2021-10-29 14:38                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] eventdev: allow for event devices requiring maintenance Jerin Jacob
2021-10-29 15:03                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-10-29 15:17                               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-29 16:02                                 ` Van Haaren, Harry [this message]
2021-10-31  9:29                                   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-10-30 17:19                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-10-31 13:17                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-11-01 13:28                                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 " Mattias Rönnblom
2021-11-01 13:28                                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] event/dsw: make use of eventdev maintenance facility Mattias Rönnblom
2021-11-01 13:28                                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] eventdev: have adapters support device maintenance Mattias Rönnblom
2021-11-04 12:33                                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] eventdev: allow for event devices requiring maintenance Jerin Jacob
2021-11-01  9:26                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-11-01 18:40                                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Mattias Rönnblom
2021-11-01 18:40                                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/3] event/dsw: make use of eventdev maintenance facility Mattias Rönnblom
2021-11-01 18:40                                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/3] eventdev: have adapters support device maintenance Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-09 13:33     ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 1/3] eventdev: allow for event devices requiring maintenance Eads, Gage
2020-04-09 14:14       ` Mattias Rönnblom

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