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From: "Van Haaren, Harry" <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>
To: "Honnappa Nagarahalli" <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
	"mattias.ronnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: nd <nd@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: Service core statistics MT safety
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 08:46:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN0PR11MB5712D429524F7B39E435A71AD7BA9@BN0PR11MB5712.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBAPR08MB5814FD71452F8D5854AC508898BB9@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Hey All,

(I've been away on Holidays a few days, just catching up!)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 9:07 PM
> To: Mattias Rönnblom <hofors@lysator.liu.se>; mattias.ronnblom
> <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>; Morten Brørup
> <mb@smartsharesystems.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> Cc: Van Haaren, Harry <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>; nd
> <nd@arm.com>
> Subject: RE: Service core statistics MT safety
> 
> <snip>

<big snip of previous discussions>

> > At the time of the read operation (in the global counter solution), there may well
> > be cycles consumed or calls having been made, but not yet posted. The window
> > between call having been made, and global counter having been incremented
> > (and thus made globally visible) is small, but non-zero.
> Agree. The read value is the atomic state of the system at a given instance (when the
> read was executed), though that instance happened few cycles back.
> (Just to be clear, I am fine with per-core counters)

Option 1: "Per core counters"

> Agree we need atomic operations. I am not sure if __atomic_fetch_add or
> __atomic_store_n would have a large difference. __atomic_fetch_add would result
> in less number of instructions. I am fine with either.

Option 2: "Use atomics for counter increments".

> > >> I was fortunate to get some data from a real-world application, and
> > >> enabling service core stats resulted in a 7% degradation of overall
> > >> system capacity. I'm guessing atomic instructions would not make things
> > better.

Agree, performance of atomics is likely to reduce performance.. but correctness
is worth more than performance.

<snip>

In my mind, any LTS/backports get the simplest/highest-confidence bugfix: using atomics.
The atomics are behind the "service stats" feature enable, so impact is only when those are
enabled.

If there is still a performance hit, and there are *no* MT services registered, we could check
a static-global flag, and if there are no MT services use the normal adds. Thoughts on such a
solution to reduce atomic perf impact only to apps with MT-services? 

The code changes themselves are OK.. I can send a patch with fix if there's agreement on the approach?


diff --git a/lib/eal/common/rte_service.c b/lib/eal/common/rte_service.c
index ef31b1f63c..a07c8fc2d7 100644
--- a/lib/eal/common/rte_service.c
+++ b/lib/eal/common/rte_service.c
@@ -363,9 +363,9 @@ service_runner_do_callback(struct rte_service_spec_impl *s,
                uint64_t start = rte_rdtsc();
                s->spec.callback(userdata);
                uint64_t end = rte_rdtsc();
-               s->cycles_spent += end - start;
+               __atomic_fetch_add(&s->cycles_spent, (end-start), __ATOMIC_RELAXED);
+               __atomic_fetch_add(&s->calls, 1, __ATOMIC_RELAXED);
                cs->calls_per_service[service_idx]++;
-               s->calls++;
        } else
                s->spec.callback(userdata);
 }

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-30  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-27 11:05 Mattias Rönnblom
2022-06-27 12:31 ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-27 17:39   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-27 17:47     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-06-27 18:19       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-27 20:00         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-06-28  0:14           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-28  6:52             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-06-28 15:24               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-28 18:30                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-06-28 19:15                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-29  6:34                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-06-29 20:07                       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-30  8:46                         ` Van Haaren, Harry [this message]
2022-07-01 18:37                           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-01 20:51                             ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-05 17:09                               ` Van Haaren, Harry
2022-07-07 17:26                                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-08 12:58                                   ` Van Haaren, Harry

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