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From: Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>
To: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	Huichao Cai <chcchc88@163.com>
Cc: Kiran Kumar Kokkilagadda <kirankumark@marvell.com>,
	Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>,
	"yanzhirun_163@163.com" <yanzhirun_163@163.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Robin Jarry <rjarry@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: Re:RE: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] graph: optimize graph search when scheduling nodes
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:35:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BY3PR18MB47853EE645A0BE8F1E2CC7A5C8592@BY3PR18MB4785.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJFAV8y4ZVoSdsGVV_PAZDBPKvYjFZf8-iAXZS5nMCO+2OUz4Q@mail.gmail.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2024 2:21 PM
> To: Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>
> Cc: Huichao Cai <chcchc88@163.com>; Kiran Kumar Kokkilagadda
> <kirankumark@marvell.com>; Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram
> <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>; yanzhirun_163@163.com; dev@dpdk.org;
> Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Robin Jarry <rjarry@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Re:RE: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] graph: optimize graph search when
> scheduling nodes
> 
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 6: 39 AM Jerin Jacob <jerinj@ marvell. com> wrote: >
> > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Marchand
> <david. marchand@ redhat. com> > > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 7: 08
> 
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 6:39 AM Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 7:08 PM
> > > To: Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>
> > > Cc: Huichao Cai <chcchc88@163.com>; Kiran Kumar Kokkilagadda
> > > <kirankumark@marvell.com>; Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram
> > > <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>; yanzhirun_163@163.com; dev@dpdk.org;
> > > Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Robin Jarry
> > > <rjarry@redhat.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Re:RE: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] graph: optimize graph search
> > > when scheduling nodes
> > >
> > > Hello Jerin, On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 1: 22 PM Jerin Jacob <jerinj@ 
> > > marvell. com>
> > > wrote: > > > Is n't breaking the ABI? > > > > So can't we modify the
> > > ABI, or is there any special operation required to modify > > Hello
> > > Jerin,
> >
> > Hello David,
> >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 1:22 PM Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Is n't breaking the ABI?
> > > > >
> > > > > So can't we modify the ABI, or is there any special operation
> > > > > required to modify the ABI?
> > > >
> > > > Only LTS release (xx.11) can change the ABI after sending deprecation
> notice.
> > > > Looking at the pahole output, one option will be making dispatch
> > > > and new semi fastpath Additions like  xstat_off can be min cache
> > > > aligned to make room for future expansion and to make sure have
> > > > better
> > > performance.
> > >
> > > Adding holes may be a short term solution, but in my opinion, the
> > > slow path part should be entirely hidden and we only expose the fp part.
> >
> > The new cache line alignment items are proposed are fastpath items only.
> 
> I had only noticed the second comment:
> 
> +       alignas(RTE_CACHE_LINE_MIN_SIZE)
>         rte_graph_off_t xstat_off; /**< Offset to xstat counters. */
>         /* Fast path area  */
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> And I assumed the part in the struct before was slow path.
> (it may be worth enhancing these comments, with a single limit of slow/fast
> path areas)

Yes. Xstat_off was new addition as a fastpath item in this release and there was no space
in original Fastpath area. And, Yes, the comment needs to be updated.


> 
> 
> >
> > > Reminder, those holes must be in a "known state" as we release
> > > v24.11 so that the presence of future additions can be safely detected.
> 
> If the rte_node objects are allocated by the graph library and zero'd, then we
> are good.
> It seems to be the case in graph_nodes_populate(), and the rte_node objects
> are embedded in the rte_graph object.
> 
> Is there another location in the graph library where a rte_node object is
> allocated?

No

> 
> If not, and an application can not create a rte_node object, your proposal looks
> good to me.

OK. @Huichao Cai Please send two patches (a) new proposal and (b) your improvement as series.
Update ABI Changes section in  doc/guides/rel_notes/release_24_11.rst  


> 
> 
> --
> David Marchand


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-12  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-07  8:04 Huichao cai
2024-11-07  9:37 ` [EXTERNAL] " Jerin Jacob
2024-11-08  1:39   ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-08 12:22     ` Jerin Jacob
2024-11-08 13:38       ` David Marchand
2024-11-11  5:38         ` Jerin Jacob
2024-11-12  8:51           ` David Marchand
2024-11-12  9:35             ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2024-11-12 12:57               ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-13  9:22               ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-14  7:09                 ` Jerin Jacob
2024-11-11  4:03 ` [PATCH v2] graph: mcore: optimize graph search Huichao Cai
2024-11-11  5:46   ` [EXTERNAL] " Jerin Jacob
2024-11-13  9:19     ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-13  7:35   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Huichao Cai
2024-11-13  7:35     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] graph: add alignment to the member of rte_node Huichao Cai
2024-11-14  7:14       ` [EXTERNAL] " Jerin Jacob
2024-11-14  8:45     ` [PATCH v4 1/2] graph: mcore: optimize graph search Huichao Cai
2024-11-14  8:45       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] graph: add alignment to the member of rte_node Huichao Cai
2024-11-14 10:05         ` [EXTERNAL] " Jerin Jacob
2024-11-14 12:06           ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-14 13:04             ` Jerin Jacob

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