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From: Khadem Ullah <14pwcse1224@uetpeshawar.edu.pk>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	 Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	dev@dpdk.org,  dpdk stable <stable@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib/ethdev: fix segfault in secondary process by validating dev_private pointer
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 00:03:20 +0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA++2-x6B7C7GUSQ_H4q_ay2snp3V0XJEQQif9ZFqa=BNzY9qDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250722112154.78349c82@hermes.local>

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Right, those structures are accessed within each PMD, and I believe this
shouldn't pose issues even on weakly ordered systems. As long as the checks
are implemented using proper DPDK APIs, we can ensure correctness by
enforcing appropriate memory ordering where needed, without introducing
full locking overhead.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 23:21 Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 22:53:08 +0500
> Khadem Ullah <14pwcse1224@uetpeshawar.edu.pk> wrote:
>
> > Right, but performance and reliability are both important. While DPDK
> > rightly prioritizes performance, some level of reliability should still
> be
> > ensured, especially to catch known issues that could lead to instability.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 22:38 Stephen Hemminger <
> stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 22:04:32 +0500
> > > Khadem Ullah <14pwcse1224@uetpeshawar.edu.pk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Agree, but I think it's also a good practice to guard against known
> cases
> > > > that are prone to crashes.
> > >
> > >
> > > Right but DPDK chooses performance over API safety.
> > > For example rx/tx burst doesn't check args.
> > >
> > > The point is that as a library, if application is doing something wrong
> > > returning error doesn't always help.
> > >
>
> The problem is that all those values dev->data and private are shared
> between processes without any locking. If the API's are going to MP safe
> then they would require locking. The DPDK has made an explicit decision
> to not use locking in ethdev control or data path.
>
> You can get away with checking for dev->data being NULL on x86 where
> there is data consistency. But on weakly ordered platforms that is not
> going
> to work.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-22 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-22 11:54 Khadem Ullah
2025-07-22 13:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-07-22 14:30   ` Khadem Ullah
2025-07-22 15:42     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-07-22 16:01       ` Khadem Ullah
2025-07-22 16:13         ` Bruce Richardson
2025-07-22 17:04           ` Khadem Ullah
2025-07-22 17:38             ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-07-22 17:53               ` Khadem Ullah
2025-07-22 18:21                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-07-22 19:03                   ` Khadem Ullah [this message]
2025-07-22 19:05                   ` Ivan Malov
2025-07-22 22:28                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-07-23  4:29 ` Khadem Ullah
2025-07-23  4:50 ` [PATCH v2] " Khadem Ullah

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