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From: Ajit Khaparde <ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com>
To: "lihuisong (C)" <lihuisong@huawei.com>
Cc: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	huangdengdui <huangdengdui@huawei.com>,
	 Damodharam Ammepalli <damodharam.ammepalli@broadcom.com>,
	roretzla@linux.microsoft.com,  dev@dpdk.org,
	ferruh.yigit@amd.com, aman.deep.singh@intel.com,
	 yuying.zhang@intel.com, andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru,
	 stephen@networkplumber.org, jerinjacobk@gmail.com,
	liuyonglong@huawei.com,  fengchengwen@huawei.com,
	haijie1@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] ethdev: support setting lanes
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 20:45:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACZ4nhvqgkFBJKGcJ9AMUDax_k-JJOn2KOLsbciEGcX7pSbyWQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68ee0a54-c0b4-293c-67ee-efed8964c33b@huawei.com>

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On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 6:42 PM lihuisong (C) <lihuisong@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>
> 在 2024/3/25 17:30, Thomas Monjalon 写道:
> > 25/03/2024 07:24, huangdengdui:
> >> On 2024/3/22 21:58, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> >>> 22/03/2024 08:09, Dengdui Huang:
> >>>> -#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_10G     RTE_BIT32(8)  /**< 10 Gbps */
> >>>> -#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_20G     RTE_BIT32(9)  /**< 20 Gbps */
> >>>> -#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_25G     RTE_BIT32(10) /**< 25 Gbps */
> >>>> -#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_40G     RTE_BIT32(11) /**< 40 Gbps */
> >>>> -#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_50G     RTE_BIT32(12) /**< 50 Gbps */
> >>>> -#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_56G     RTE_BIT32(13) /**< 56 Gbps */
> >>>> -#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_100G    RTE_BIT32(14) /**< 100 Gbps */
> >>>> -#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_200G    RTE_BIT32(15) /**< 200 Gbps */
> >>>> -#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_400G    RTE_BIT32(16) /**< 400 Gbps */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_10G            RTE_BIT32(8)  /**< 10 Gbps */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_20G            RTE_BIT32(9)  /**< 20 Gbps 2lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_25G            RTE_BIT32(10) /**< 25 Gbps */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_40G            RTE_BIT32(11) /**< 40 Gbps 4lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_50G            RTE_BIT32(12) /**< 50 Gbps */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_56G            RTE_BIT32(13) /**< 56 Gbps 4lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_100G           RTE_BIT32(14) /**< 100 Gbps */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_200G           RTE_BIT32(15) /**< 200 Gbps 4lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_400G           RTE_BIT32(16) /**< 400 Gbps 4lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_10G_4LANES     RTE_BIT32(17)  /**< 10 Gbps 4lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_50G_2LANES     RTE_BIT32(18) /**< 50 Gbps 2 lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_100G_2LANES    RTE_BIT32(19) /**< 100 Gbps 2 lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_100G_4LANES    RTE_BIT32(20) /**< 100 Gbps 4lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_200G_2LANES    RTE_BIT32(21) /**< 200 Gbps 2lanes */
> >>>> +#define RTE_ETH_LINK_SPEED_400G_8LANES    RTE_BIT32(22) /**< 400 Gbps 8lanes */
> >>> I don't think it is a good idea to make this more complex.
> >>> It brings nothing as far as I can see, compared to having speed and lanes separated.
> >>> Can we have lanes information a separate value? no need for bitmask.
> >>>
> >> Hi,Thomas, Ajit, roretzla, damodharam
> >>
> >> I also considered the option at the beginning of the design.
> >> But this option is not used due to the following reasons:
> >> 1. For the user, ethtool couples speed and lanes.
> >> The result of querying the NIC capability is as follows:
> >> Supported link modes:
> >>          100000baseSR4/Full
> >>          100000baseSR2/Full
So if DPDK provides a get lanes API, it should be able to tell the
number of lanes supported.
After that, the user should be able to pick one of the supported lane counts?

> >> The NIC capability is configured as follows:
> >> ethtool -s eth1 speed 100000 lanes 4 autoneg off
> >> ethtool -s eth1 speed 100000 lanes 2 autoneg off
> >>
> >> Therefore, users are more accustomed to the coupling of speed and lanes.
> >>
> >> 2. For the PHY, When the physical layer capability is configured through the MDIO,
> >> the speed and lanes are also coupled.
> >> For example:
> >> Table 45–7—PMA/PMD control 2 register bit definitions[1]
> >> PMA/PMD type selection
> >>                          1 0 0 1 0 1 0 = 100GBASE-SR2 PMA/PMD
> >>                          0 1 0 1 1 1 1 = 100GBASE-SR4 PMA/PMD
> >>
> >> Therefore, coupling speeds and lanes is easier to understand.
> >> And it is easier for the driver to report the support lanes.
> >>
> >> In addition, the code implementation is compatible with the old version.
> >> When the driver does not support the lanes setting, the code does not need to be modified.
> >>
> >> So I think the speed and lanes coupling is better.
> > I don't think so.
> > You are mixing hardware implementation, user tool, and API.
> > Having a separate and simple API is cleaner and not more difficult to handle
> > in some get/set style functions.
> Having a separate and simple API is cleaner. It's good.
> But supported lane capabilities have a lot to do with the specified
> speed. This is determined by releated specification.
> If we add a separate API for speed lanes, it probably is hard to check
> the validity of the configuration for speed and lanes.
> And the setting lane API sepparated from speed is not good for
> uniforming all PMD's behavior in ethdev layer.
>
> The patch[1] is an example for this separate API.
> I think it is not very good. It cannot tell user and PMD the follow points:
> 1) user don't know what lanes should or can be set for a specified speed
> on one NIC.
> 2) how should PMD do for a supported lanes in their HW?
>
> Anyway, if we add setting speed lanes feature, we must report and set
> speed and lanes capabilities for user well.
> otherwise, user will be more confused.
>
> [1] https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/list/?series=31606
>
> BR,
> /Huisong
> >
> >
> >
> > .

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-26  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-12  7:52 [PATCH 0/3] " Dengdui Huang
2024-03-12  7:52 ` [PATCH 1/3] ethdev: " Dengdui Huang
2024-03-19  3:02   ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-20  1:16     ` huangdengdui
2024-03-12  7:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] net/hns3: " Dengdui Huang
2024-03-12  7:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] app/testpmd: " Dengdui Huang
2024-03-15 21:47   ` Damodharam Ammepalli
2024-03-19  2:38     ` huangdengdui
2024-03-22  7:09   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Dengdui Huang
2024-03-22  7:09     ` [PATCH v2 1/6] ethdev: " Dengdui Huang
2024-03-22 13:58       ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-03-22 15:15         ` Ajit Khaparde
2024-03-22 17:32           ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-22 22:30             ` Damodharam Ammepalli
2024-03-25  6:24         ` huangdengdui
2024-03-25  9:30           ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-03-25 21:14             ` Damodharam Ammepalli
2024-03-26  1:42             ` lihuisong (C)
2024-03-26  3:45               ` Ajit Khaparde [this message]
2024-03-26 10:30               ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-03-26 11:15                 ` lihuisong (C)
2024-03-26 13:47                   ` Ajit Khaparde
2024-03-26 18:11                     ` Ajit Khaparde
2024-03-26 18:21                       ` Damodharam Ammepalli
2024-03-30 11:38                         ` huangdengdui
2024-04-01 20:07                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-04-01 22:29                             ` Damodharam Ammepalli
2024-05-22 20:44                               ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-02  8:37                             ` huangdengdui
2024-04-02 15:28                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-04-04 13:45                               ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-03-29  3:25                     ` lihuisong (C)
2024-03-22  7:09     ` [PATCH v2 2/6] test: updated UT for " Dengdui Huang
2024-03-22  7:09     ` [PATCH v2 3/6] ethdev: add function to parse link mode info Dengdui Huang
2024-03-22  7:09     ` [PATCH v2 4/6] net/hns3: use parse link mode info function Dengdui Huang
2024-03-22  7:09     ` [PATCH v2 5/6] net/hns3: support setting lanes Dengdui Huang
2024-03-22  7:09     ` [PATCH v2 6/6] app/testpmd: " Dengdui Huang
2024-04-04 13:58     ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-16 12:48       ` huangdengdui
2024-05-22 20:49         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-03-18 14:56 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Thomas Monjalon
2024-03-18 21:26   ` Damodharam Ammepalli
2024-03-18 21:42     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-18 22:55       ` Ajit Khaparde
2024-03-20 11:41     ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-03-20 12:31     ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-03-21  2:02       ` huangdengdui
2024-03-21  8:28         ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-03-22  2:28           ` huangdengdui
2024-03-22  4:38             ` Jerin Jacob
2024-03-22  5:25               ` Ajit Khaparde
2024-03-22  5:51                 ` Jerin Jacob
2024-03-22 13:51                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-03-25 14:04                     ` Jerin Jacob

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