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From: Alejandro Lucero <alejandro.lucero@netronome.com>
To: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>
Cc: "Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Yongseok Koh <yskoh@mellanox.com>,
	 Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	nhorman@tuxdriver.com,  Gaetan Rivet <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>,
	dev <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] introduce DMA memory mapping for external memory
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:43:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD+H9922gjrmwbRr5Qo7cVqvE5DBJj27hvq-+_16GAPjYWbBcg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1550048187.git.shahafs@mellanox.com>

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 9:11 AM Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com> wrote:

> This series is in continue to RFC[1].
>
> The DPDK APIs expose 3 different modes to work with memory used for DMA:
>
> 1. Use the DPDK owned memory (backed by the DPDK provided hugepages).
> This memory is allocated by the DPDK libraries, included in the DPDK
> memory system (memseg lists) and automatically DMA mapped by the DPDK
> layers.
>
> 2. Use memory allocated by the user and register to the DPDK memory
> systems. This is also referred as external memory. Upon registration of
> the external memory, the DPDK layers will DMA map it to all needed
> devices.
>
> 3. Use memory allocated by the user and not registered to the DPDK memory
> system. This is for users who wants to have tight control on this
> memory. The user will need to explicitly call DMA map function in order
> to register such memory to the different devices.
>
> The scope of the patch focus on #3 above.
>
>
Why can not we have case 2 covering case 3?


> Currently the only way to map external memory is through VFIO
> (rte_vfio_dma_map). While VFIO is common, there are other vendors
> which use different ways to map memory (e.g. Mellanox and NXP).
>
>
As you say, VFIO is common, and when allowing DMAs programmed in user
space, the right thing to do. I'm assuming there is an IOMMU hardware and
this is what Mellanox and NXP rely on in some way or another.

Having each driver doing things in their own way will end up in a harder to
validate system. If there is an IOMMU hardware, same mechanism should be
used always, leaving to the IOMMU hw specific implementation to deal with
the details. If a NIC is IOMMU-able, that should not  be supported by
specific vendor drivers but through a generic solution like VFIO which will
validate a device with such capability and to perform the required actions
for that case. VFIO and IOMMU should be modified as needed for supporting
this requirement instead of leaving vendor drivers to implement their own
solution.

In any case, I think this support should be in a different patchset than
the private user space mappings.



> The work in this patch moves the DMA mapping to vendor agnostic APIs.
> A new map and unmap ops were added to rte_bus structure. Implementation
> of those was done currently only on the PCI bus. The implementation takes
> the driver map and umap implementation as bypass to the VFIO mapping.
> That is, in case of no specific map/unmap from the PCI driver,
> VFIO mapping, if possible, will be used.
>
> Application use with those APIs is quite simple:
> * allocate memory
> * take a device, and query its rte_device.
> * call the bus map function for this device.
>
> Future work will deprecate the rte_vfio_dma_map and rte_vfio_dma_unmap
> APIs, leaving the PCI device APIs as the preferred option for the user.
>
> [1] https://patches.dpdk.org/patch/47796/
>
> Shahaf Shuler (6):
>   vfio: allow DMA map of memory for the default vfio fd
>   vfio: don't fail to DMA map if memory is already mapped
>   bus: introduce DMA memory mapping for external memory
>   net/mlx5: refactor external memory registration
>   net/mlx5: support PCI device DMA map and unmap
>   doc: deprecate VFIO DMA map APIs
>
>  doc/guides/prog_guide/env_abstraction_layer.rst |   2 +-
>  doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst            |   4 +
>  drivers/bus/pci/pci_common.c                    |  78 +++++++
>  drivers/bus/pci/rte_bus_pci.h                   |  14 ++
>  drivers/net/mlx5/mlx5.c                         |   2 +
>  drivers/net/mlx5/mlx5_mr.c                      | 232 ++++++++++++++++---
>  drivers/net/mlx5/mlx5_rxtx.h                    |   5 +
>  lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_bus.c          |  22 ++
>  lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_bus.h         |  57 +++++
>  lib/librte_eal/common/include/rte_vfio.h        |  12 +-
>  lib/librte_eal/linuxapp/eal/eal_vfio.c          |  26 ++-
>  lib/librte_eal/rte_eal_version.map              |   2 +
>  12 files changed, 418 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
>
> --
> 2.12.0
>
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-02-13 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-13  9:10 Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/6] vfio: allow DMA map of memory for the default vfio fd Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:45   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 11:38     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 15:23     ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13 14:41   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/6] vfio: don't fail to DMA map if memory is already mapped Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:58   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 19:52     ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/6] bus: introduce DMA memory mapping for external memory Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13 11:17   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 19:07     ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 14:00       ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-17  6:23         ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/6] net/mlx5: refactor external memory registration Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/6] net/mlx5: support PCI device DMA map and unmap Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13 11:35   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 11:44     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 19:11       ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 10:21         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-21  9:21           ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/6] doc: deprecate VFIO DMA map APIs Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13 11:43 ` Alejandro Lucero [this message]
2019-02-13 19:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] introduce DMA memory mapping for external memory Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 10:19     ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-14 13:28       ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 16:19         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-17  6:18           ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-18 12:21             ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-14 12:22     ` Alejandro Lucero
2019-02-14 12:27       ` Alejandro Lucero
2019-02-14 13:41       ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 16:43         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 " Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:27     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:27       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/6] vfio: allow DMA map of memory for the default vfio fd Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-30  0:23         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30  0:23           ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30 14:29           ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30 14:29             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-10  8:27       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/6] vfio: don't fail to DMA map if memory is already mapped Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:28       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/6] bus: introduce device level DMA memory mapping Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-11 10:19         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-03-13  9:56         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-13 11:12           ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-13 11:19             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-13 11:47               ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-03-30 14:36             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30 14:36               ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-10  8:28       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/6] net/mlx5: refactor external memory registration Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:28       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/6] net/mlx5: support PCI device DMA map and unmap Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:28       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/6] doc: deprecation notice for VFIO DMA map APIs Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-11 10:20         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-03-11 17:35           ` Rami Rosen
2019-10-01 15:20         ` David Marchand
2019-10-02  4:53           ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-02  7:51             ` David Marchand
2019-03-11  9:27       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/6] introduce DMA memory mapping for external memory Gaëtan Rivet
2019-03-30 14:40       ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30 14:40         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/6] vfio: allow DMA map of memory for the default vfio fd Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/6] vfio: don't fail to DMA map if memory is already mapped Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/6] bus: introduce device level DMA memory mapping Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 16:35     ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/6] net/mlx5: refactor external memory registration Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/6] net/mlx5: support PCI device DMA map and unmap Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/6] doc: deprecation notice for VFIO DMA map APIs Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] vfio: allow DMA map of memory for the default vfio fd Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-28 11:56   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] vfio: don't fail to DMA map if memory is already mapped Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-28 11:58   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] bus: introduce device level DMA memory mapping Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-28 12:14   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-28 14:41     ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] net/mlx5: refactor external memory registration Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] net/mlx5: support PCI device DMA map and unmap Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] doc: deprecate VFIO DMA map APIs Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-21 15:50   ` David Marchand

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