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From: Jim Murphy <jmurphy@arista.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.s.singh@gmail.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] rte_hash thread safe
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:48:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJC5fi1+2iJtyUPj7X_f-5HFVeF8u0F+TzjeGfOtUNTZUCYnwA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180423173034.7086b772@xeon-e3>

Anecdotally I've heard that the urcu hash implementation is slower than
rte_hash based on pure lookup performance. Has anyone considered adding RCU
hooks into rte_hash?


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 5:30 PM, Stephen Hemminger <
stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:21:15 -0700
> Jim Murphy <jmurphy@arista.com> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone seen performance data comparing rte_hash (perhaps with r/w
> > locks) versus URCU hash?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Stephen Hemminger <
> > stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:40:41 -0700
> > > Brijesh Singh <brijesh.s.singh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > A gentle reminder,
> > > >
> > > > I am curious to know if/how rte_hash is thread safe for lookups.It is
> > > > not obvious to me how following code is thread safe:
> > > >
> > > > _rte_hash_lookup_with_hash(const struct rte_hash *h, const void
> *key,
> > > >
> > > >                                         hash_sig_t sig, void **data)
> > > >
> > > > {
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > …
> > > >
> > > >                         if (rte_hash_cmp_eq(key, k->key, h) == 0) {
> > > >
> > > >                                 if (data != NULL)
> > > >
> > > >                                         *data = k->pdata;
> > > >
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > a key could be deleted and another key inserted in its slot while the
> > > > lookup is happening. For example, in the following sequence of
> events:
> > > > The slot has Key1,V1
> > > > Lookup Thread T1 compares the input key to Key1 and it matches. The
> > > > thread gets context switched out
> > > > Thread T2 deletes Key1.
> > > > Thread T2 inserts Key2 with value V2.
> > > > T1 reads the data from the slot and returns V2. This is incorrect.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Brijesh
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Brijesh Singh
> > > > <brijesh.s.singh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I  want to use DPDK's rte_hash library to keep track of tcp flows.
> The
> > > > > lookups will be done by multiple threads but inserts will be done
> only
> > > > > on one thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > As per the documentation rte_hash library has thread safe lookups.
> Key
> > > > > /data inserts should be done on single thread, since those
> operations
> > > > > are not thread safe. Is this documentation still correct?
> > > > >
> > > > > The lookup code compares the key and returns the data if the key
> > > > > matches, this doesn't look like thread safe. Am I missing
> something?
> > > > >
> > > > > _rte_hash_lookup_with_hash(const struct rte_hash *h, const void
> *key,
> > > > >
> > > > >                                         hash_sig_t sig, void
> **data)
> > > > >
> > > > > {
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > …
> > > > >
> > > > >                         if (rte_hash_cmp_eq(key, k->key, h) == 0) {
> > > > >
> > > > >                                 if (data != NULL)
> > > > >
> > > > >                                         *data = k->pdata;
> > > > >
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Brijesh
> > >
> > > The best way to handle this is to do some kind of Read Copy Update.
> > > Unfortunately, this is not possible in scope of DPDK since it requires
> > > cooperation from application threads.
> > >
> > > If you need thread safe hash table, my recommendation would be to
> > > skip the DPDK hash library and use userspace RCU instead:
> > >   http://liburcu.org/
> > >
> > > Note: URCU is LGPL versus BSD licensed. But then any non trivial
> > > Linux application needs to use LGPL libraries already.
> > >
>
> No. But R/W locks are really slow. Look at one of Paul Mc Kenney's many RCU
> talks and papers.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-24  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-12  4:12 Brijesh Singh
2018-04-23 19:40 ` Brijesh Singh
2018-04-23 23:50   ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-24  0:21     ` Jim Murphy
2018-04-24  0:30       ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-24  0:48         ` Jim Murphy [this message]
2018-04-24  1:14           ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-24  2:13             ` Jim Murphy
2018-04-24  6:36               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-04-24 15:04             ` Brijesh Singh
2018-04-25  6:45               ` Shyam Shrivastav
2018-04-24  3:48           ` Jerin Jacob
2018-04-24  5:02             ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-24  6:12   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-04-24 11:03     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-04-24 11:07       ` Bruce Richardson
2018-05-24 17:35 ` Wang, Yipeng1

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