From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Cc: dev <dev@dpdk.org>, Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
"Ruifeng Wang (Arm Technology China)" <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>,
nd <nd@arm.com>, Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>,
Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
John McNamara <john.mcnamara@intel.com>,
Marko Kovacevic <marko.kovacevic@intel.com>,
Phil Yang <phil.yang@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] doc: announce deprecation of refcnt atomic member
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 10:35:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJFAV8w9X1nHOLmd0CMLMVxnueDmWgRdx6kFfLX77=q9K=rbQg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200717162012.GB719@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:20 PM Bruce Richardson
<bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 04:35:56PM +0200, David Marchand wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 4:32 PM David Marchand
> > <david.marchand@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:37 AM Phil Yang <phil.yang@arm.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > refcnt_atomic member in structures rte_mbuf and rte_mbuf_ext_shared_info
> > > > will be deprecated in 20.11 release.
> > > >
> > > > Suggested-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Phil Yang <phil.yang@arm.com>
> > > > Acked-by: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst | 6 ++++++
> > > > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst b/doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst
> > > > index a58a179..99c9806 100644
> > > > --- a/doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst
> > > > +++ b/doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst
> > > > @@ -129,6 +129,12 @@ Deprecation Notices
> > > > in "rte_sched.h". These changes are aligned to improvements suggested in the
> > > > RFC https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2018-November/120035.html.
> > > >
> > > > +* mbuf: ``refcnt_atomic`` member in structures ``rte_mbuf`` and
> > > > + ``rte_mbuf_ext_shared_info`` is of type ``rte_atomic16_t``. Due to adoption
> > > > + of C11 atomic builtins it will be of type ``uint16_t``. ``refcnt_atomic``
> > > > + will be removed in 20.11. It will be replaced with ``refcnt`` of type
> > > > + ``uint16_t``.
> > > > +
> > > > * metrics: The function ``rte_metrics_init`` will have a non-void return
> > > > in order to notify errors instead of calling ``rte_exit``.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > 2.7.4
> > > >
> > >
> > > Acked-by: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
> >
> > Bruce, Konstantin,
> >
> > This precedes the first open source release so trying with you guys:
> > what is the purpose of the RTE_MBUF_REFCNT_ATOMIC build flag?
> > Thanks.
> >
> That's indeed going back a long way!
>
> IIRC When we first introduced a reference count, I believe we considered
> cases where we would not need atomics to work on the ref count, and added
> the build macro to remove the cost of the atomic in those instances. For
> example, if a TCP stack wanted to hold on to an mbuf after transmission
> rather than having it freed to the mempool (in case it needed to be
> retransmitted), it could increment the reference count to ensure that
> did not occur. Later if an ack for the TCP packet was received the buffer
> could be freed. So long as the same thread that did the TX freed the buffer
> later, no atomic increment or decrement was necessary.
>
> Similarly for a run-to-completion app which fragmented packets using
> multiple mbufs referencing a single packet buffer. So long as only a single
> thread worked on the buffer, the reference counters need not be atomic.
>
> In practice, the general case needs to be atomic ref-counts, and I'm not
> sure who, if anyone, uses this setting in their apps. It should be
> convertable to a runtime setting if needed.
Thanks Bruce and Konstantin.
With the switch to meson and not being able to enable/disable this
build flag, we will lose this feature.
It seems to be a quite special use case, so we might need a new dedicated API?
--
David Marchand
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-21 8:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-11 10:26 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mbuf: use c11 atomics for refcnt operations Phil Yang
2020-07-03 15:38 ` David Marchand
2020-07-06 8:03 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-07 10:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] mbuf: use C11 " Phil Yang
2020-07-07 17:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-08 4:48 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-08 11:43 ` Olivier Matz
2020-07-09 9:52 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-08 5:11 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-08 11:44 ` Olivier Matz
2020-07-09 10:00 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-09 10:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] mbuf: use C11 atomic built-ins " Phil Yang
2020-07-09 11:03 ` Olivier Matz
2020-07-09 13:00 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-09 13:31 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-07-09 14:10 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-09 15:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] " Phil Yang
2020-07-09 15:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] doc: announce deprecation of refcnt atomic member Phil Yang
2020-07-10 2:55 ` Ruifeng Wang
2020-07-13 15:54 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-14 10:41 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-15 12:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] mbuf: use C11 atomic built-ins for refcnt operations David Marchand
2020-07-15 12:49 ` Aaron Conole
2020-07-15 16:29 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-16 4:16 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-16 11:30 ` David Marchand
2020-07-16 13:20 ` Dodji Seketeli
2020-07-16 19:11 ` David Marchand
2020-07-17 4:41 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-16 11:32 ` Olivier Matz
2020-07-17 4:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] mbuf: use C11 atomic builtins " Phil Yang
2020-07-17 4:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] doc: announce deprecation of refcnt atomic member Phil Yang
2020-07-17 11:45 ` Olivier Matz
2020-07-17 14:32 ` David Marchand
2020-07-17 14:35 ` David Marchand
2020-07-17 16:06 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-17 16:20 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-07-21 8:35 ` David Marchand [this message]
2020-07-21 8:48 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-21 8:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] mbuf: use C11 atomic builtins for refcnt operations David Marchand
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