From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
To: "Hu, Jiayu" <jiayu.hu@intel.com>
Cc: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
"Ma, WenwuX" <wenwux.ma@intel.com>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Xia, Chenbo" <chenbo.xia@intel.com>,
"Jiang, Cheng1" <cheng1.jiang@intel.com>,
"Wang, YuanX" <yuanx.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] vhost: support async dequeue for split ring
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 15:52:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJFAV8x3zZzezGeimA69wumobczUhNePTjj-OaoYg5QqSyMnAQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6274d206d014e88a1369c3ea430b3a9@intel.com>
On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 3:45 PM Hu, Jiayu <jiayu.hu@intel.com> wrote:
> > - I don't like this threshold, this is too low level and most users will only see
> > the shiny aspect "better performance" without understanding the
> > consequences.
> > By default, it leaves the door open to a _bad_ behavior, that is packet
> > reordering.
> > At a very minimum, strongly recommend to use 0 in the API.
>
> That's a good point. But there are some reasons of open this value to users:
> - large packets will block small packets, like control packets of TCP.
> - dma efficiency. We usually see 20~30% drops because of offloading 64B copies to
> dma engine.
> - the threshold is not only related to hardware, but also application. The value decides
> which copies are assigned to which worker, the CPU or the DMA. As async vhost works
> in an asynchronous way, the threshold value decides how many works can be done in
> parallel. It's not only about what DMA engine and what platform we use, but also what
> computation the CPU has been assigned. Different users will have different values.
>
> I totally understand the worry about reordering. But simple iperf tests show positive
> results with setting threshold in our lab. We need more careful tests before modifying
> it, IMHO.
If you need more time, then please take it.
The dma generic API could have an impact on this feature too.
Why the rush for merging this now?
--
David Marchand
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-16 13:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-02 8:31 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/1] lib/vhost: " Yuan Wang
2021-06-02 8:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/1] " Yuan Wang
2021-06-07 16:17 ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-06-09 1:21 ` Hu, Jiayu
2021-06-18 20:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] vhost: " Wenwu Ma
2021-06-18 14:10 ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-06-18 20:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/4] examples/vhost: refactor vhost enqueue and dequeue datapaths Wenwu Ma
2021-06-18 20:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/4] examples/vhost: use a new API to query remaining ring space Wenwu Ma
2021-06-18 20:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/4] vhost: support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-06-18 20:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/4] examples/vhost: support vhost async dequeue data path Wenwu Ma
2021-06-23 15:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] vhost: support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-06-23 15:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] examples/vhost: refactor vhost enqueue and dequeue datapaths Wenwu Ma
2021-06-23 15:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] examples/vhost: use a new API to query remaining ring space Wenwu Ma
2021-06-23 15:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] vhost: support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-06-23 15:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] examples/vhost: support vhost async dequeue data path Wenwu Ma
2021-06-30 19:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-06-30 19:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] examples/vhost: refactor vhost enqueue and dequeue datapaths Wenwu Ma
2021-06-30 19:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] examples/vhost: use a new API to query remaining ring space Wenwu Ma
2021-06-30 19:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] vhost: support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-06-30 19:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] examples/vhost: support vhost async dequeue data path Wenwu Ma
2021-07-05 18:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-07-05 18:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] examples/vhost: refactor vhost enqueue and dequeue datapaths Wenwu Ma
2021-07-13 13:34 ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-07-05 18:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] examples/vhost: use a new API to query remaining ring space Wenwu Ma
2021-07-13 13:36 ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-07-05 18:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] vhost: support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-07-13 14:30 ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-07-14 6:50 ` Hu, Jiayu
2021-07-15 13:18 ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-07-16 1:10 ` Hu, Jiayu
2021-07-16 7:45 ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-07-16 7:55 ` Hu, Jiayu
2021-07-16 9:02 ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-07-16 8:14 ` David Marchand
2021-07-16 13:45 ` Hu, Jiayu
2021-07-16 13:52 ` David Marchand [this message]
2021-07-16 14:00 ` Hu, Jiayu
2021-07-05 18:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] examples/vhost: support vhost async dequeue data path Wenwu Ma
2021-07-13 17:01 ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-07-16 19:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-07-16 19:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] examples/vhost: refactor vhost enqueue and dequeue datapaths Wenwu Ma
2021-07-16 19:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] examples/vhost: use a new API to query remaining ring space Wenwu Ma
2021-07-16 19:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] vhost: support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-07-16 19:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] examples/vhost: support vhost async dequeue data path Wenwu Ma
2021-07-21 14:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/4] support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-07-21 2:31 ` Wang, Yinan
2021-07-21 14:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/4] examples/vhost: refactor vhost enqueue and dequeue datapaths Wenwu Ma
2021-07-21 14:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/4] examples/vhost: use a new API to query remaining ring space Wenwu Ma
2021-07-21 14:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/4] vhost: support async dequeue for split ring Wenwu Ma
2021-07-21 14:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/4] examples/vhost: support vhost async dequeue data path Wenwu Ma
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