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From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>
Cc: Huichao Cai <chcchc88@163.com>,
	Kiran Kumar Kokkilagadda <kirankumark@marvell.com>,
	 Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>,
	"yanzhirun_163@163.com" <yanzhirun_163@163.com>,
	 "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Robin Jarry <rjarry@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Re:RE: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] graph: optimize graph search when scheduling nodes
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:51:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJFAV8y4ZVoSdsGVV_PAZDBPKvYjFZf8-iAXZS5nMCO+2OUz4Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BY3PR18MB47854E4CE023C676E80137EEC8582@BY3PR18MB4785.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 6:39 AM Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 7:08 PM
> > To: Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>
> > Cc: Huichao Cai <chcchc88@163.com>; Kiran Kumar Kokkilagadda
> > <kirankumark@marvell.com>; Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram
> > <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>; yanzhirun_163@163.com; dev@dpdk.org;
> > Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Robin Jarry <rjarry@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: Re:RE: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] graph: optimize graph search when
> > scheduling nodes
> >
> > Hello Jerin, On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 1: 22 PM Jerin Jacob <jerinj@ marvell. com>
> > wrote: > > > Is n't breaking the ABI? > > > > So can't we modify the ABI, or is
> > there any special operation required to modify > >
> > Hello Jerin,
>
> Hello David,
>
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 1:22 PM Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com> wrote:
> > > > > Is n't breaking the ABI?
> > > >
> > > > So can't we modify the ABI, or is there any special operation
> > > > required to modify the ABI?
> > >
> > > Only LTS release (xx.11) can change the ABI after sending deprecation notice.
> > > Looking at the pahole output, one option will be making dispatch and
> > > new semi fastpath Additions like  xstat_off can be min cache aligned
> > > to make room for future expansion and to make sure have better
> > performance.
> >
> > Adding holes may be a short term solution, but in my opinion, the slow path
> > part should be entirely hidden and we only expose the fp part.
>
> The new cache line alignment items are proposed are fastpath items only.

I had only noticed the second comment:

+       alignas(RTE_CACHE_LINE_MIN_SIZE)
        rte_graph_off_t xstat_off; /**< Offset to xstat counters. */
        /* Fast path area  */
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^

And I assumed the part in the struct before was slow path.
(it may be worth enhancing these comments, with a single limit of
slow/fast path areas)


>
> > Reminder, those holes must be in a "known state" as we release v24.11 so that
> > the presence of future additions can be safely detected.

If the rte_node objects are allocated by the graph library and zero'd,
then we are good.
It seems to be the case in graph_nodes_populate(), and the rte_node
objects are embedded in the rte_graph object.

Is there another location in the graph library where a rte_node object
is allocated?

If not, and an application can not create a rte_node object, your
proposal looks good to me.


-- 
David Marchand


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-12  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-07  8:04 Huichao cai
2024-11-07  9:37 ` [EXTERNAL] " Jerin Jacob
2024-11-08  1:39   ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-08 12:22     ` Jerin Jacob
2024-11-08 13:38       ` David Marchand
2024-11-11  5:38         ` Jerin Jacob
2024-11-12  8:51           ` David Marchand [this message]
2024-11-12  9:35             ` Jerin Jacob
2024-11-12 12:57               ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-13  9:22               ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-14  7:09                 ` Jerin Jacob
2024-11-11  4:03 ` [PATCH v2] graph: mcore: optimize graph search Huichao Cai
2024-11-11  5:46   ` [EXTERNAL] " Jerin Jacob
2024-11-13  9:19     ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-13  7:35   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Huichao Cai
2024-11-13  7:35     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] graph: add alignment to the member of rte_node Huichao Cai
2024-11-14  7:14       ` [EXTERNAL] " Jerin Jacob
2024-11-14  8:45     ` [PATCH v4 1/2] graph: mcore: optimize graph search Huichao Cai
2024-11-14  8:45       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] graph: add alignment to the member of rte_node Huichao Cai
2024-11-14 10:05         ` [EXTERNAL] " Jerin Jacob
2024-11-14 12:06           ` Huichao Cai
2024-11-14 13:04             ` Jerin Jacob

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