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From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
To: Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	 "NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"i.maximets@ovn.org" <i.maximets@ovn.org>,
	 Aman Singh <aman.deep.singh@intel.com>,
	Yuying Zhang <yuying.zhang@intel.com>,
	 Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>,
	Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	 Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] ethdev: advertise flow restore in mbuf
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 11:43:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJFAV8zicZg2bvWrK=f09p37yqhVaBYiN1FQrTMsjGQH16ms6g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MW2PR12MB466610C796B327126C923058D6499@MW2PR12MB4666.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 11:31 AM Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 11:48 AM
> >
> > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 8:44 PM David Marchand
> > <david.marchand@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 6:00 PM Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > > > > As reported by Ilya [1], unconditionally calling
> > > > > rte_flow_get_restore_info() impacts an application performance for
> > drivers
> > > > > that do not provide this ops.
> > > > > It could also impact processing of packets that require no call to
> > > > > rte_flow_get_restore_info() at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Advertise in mbuf (via a dynamic flag) whether the driver has more
> > > > > metadata to provide via rte_flow_get_restore_info().
> > > > > The application can then call it only when required.
> > > > >
> > > > > Link: http://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/5248c2ca-f2a6-3fb0-38b8-
> > > > > 7f659bfa40de@ovn.org/
> > > > > Signed-off-by: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Note: I did not test this RFC patch yet but I hope we can resume and
> > > > > maybe conclude on the discussion for the tunnel offloading API.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think your approach has a good base but what happens if
> > > > it is not relevant for all flows? In this case your solution will not work.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I am not following.
> > > Could you develop?
> >
> > I still don't get your comment, could you give an example/usecase
> > where this approach can't work?
> > Thanks.
> >
> I'm think of a use case that some flows have the restore info, while
> other don't for example, we get arp packets or some packets that
> are not tunneled, and we also get tunneled packets.
>
> Or for example PMD supports this flag but the application didn't offload such a rule yet.

Again, maybe I missed something, but my proposal is for a *per packet*
report from the driver.
I am not for a global driver capability, if this is what you have in mind.


>
> In those cases application will be slow even if he didn't offload the rules,
> I assume we can say that if application wants to use this he should know
> that other packets will have some performance issues.
>
> From my point of view if application requested the tunnel offload it should
> always check this function.

With a per packet flag, the application only calls restore_info when
such tunnel offload rules have been requested, and only for packets
that require it.


-- 
David Marchand


  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-05 10:31 David Marchand
2023-05-24 12:57 ` David Marchand
2023-05-24 16:00 ` Ori Kam
2023-05-24 18:44   ` David Marchand
2023-06-01  8:48     ` David Marchand
2023-06-01  9:31       ` Ori Kam
2023-06-01  9:43         ` David Marchand [this message]
2023-06-01 10:02           ` Ori Kam
2023-06-01 10:03             ` David Marchand
2023-06-14 16:46 ` Slava Ovsiienko
2023-06-15  8:00   ` David Marchand
2023-06-15 13:47 ` [RFC PATCH v2] " David Marchand
2023-06-19 12:20   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-06-19 13:57   ` Slava Ovsiienko
2023-06-20 10:04   ` Ali Alnubani
2023-06-20 11:10 ` [RFC PATCH v3] " David Marchand
2023-06-20 16:43   ` Slava Ovsiienko
2023-06-21  7:43     ` David Marchand
2023-06-21 12:53     ` Ori Kam
2023-06-21  7:47   ` Ali Alnubani
2023-06-21 14:43 ` [PATCH v4] " David Marchand
2023-06-21 18:52   ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-07-31 20:41   ` Ilya Maximets
2023-09-26  9:17     ` David Marchand
2023-09-26 19:49       ` Ilya Maximets

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