Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] crypto/armv8: enable meson build

[Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>]

On Sun, 6 Oct, 2019, 11:36 PM Thomas Monjalon, <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:

> 05/10/2019 17:28, Jerin Jacob:
> > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:27 AM Dharmik Thakkar <dharmik.thakkar@arm.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Add new meson.build file for crypto/armv8
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Dharmik Thakkar <dharmik.thakkar@arm.com>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/crypto/armv8/meson.build | 25 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  drivers/crypto/meson.build       |  6 +++---
> > >  meson_options.txt                |  2 ++
> > >  3 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/crypto/armv8/meson.build
> >
> > >
> > >  option('allow_invalid_socket_id', type: 'boolean', value: false,
> > >         description: 'allow out-of-range NUMA socket id\'s for
> platforms that don\'t report the value correctly')
> > > +option('armv8_crypto_dir', type: 'string', value: '',
> > > +       description: 'path to the armv8_crypto library installation
> directory')
>
> You should not need such option if you provide a pkg-config file
> in your library.
>
>
> > It is not specific to this patch but it is connected to this patch.
> >
> > Three years back when Cavium contributed to this driver the situation
> > was different where only Cavium was contributing to DPDK and now we
> > have multiple vendors from
> > ARMv8 platform and ARM itself is contributing it.
> >
> > When it is submitted, I was not in favor of the external library. But
> > various reasons it happened to be the external library where 90% meat
> > in this library and shim PMD
> > the driver moved to DPDK.
> >
> > Now, I look back, It does not make sense to the external library.
> Reasons are
> > - It won't allow another ARMv8 player to contribute to this library as
> > Marvell owns this repo and there is no upstreaming path to this
> > library.
>
> This is a real issue and you are able to fix it.
>

Note sure how I can fix it and why I need to fix it. I just dont want to
start a parallel collaborating infrastructure for DPDK armv8.


>
> > - That made this library to not have 'any' change for the last three
> > year and everyone have there owned copy of this driver. In fact the
> > library was not compiling for last 2.5 years.
> > - AES-NI case it makes sense to have an external library as it is a
> > single vendor and it is not specific to DPDK. But in this, It is
> > another way around
>
> I don't see how it is different, except it is badly maintained.
>

It is different because only one company contributing to it. In this case,
multiple companies needs to contribute.

The library badly maintained in upstream as there is no incentives to
upstream  to external library. I believe each vendor has it own copy of
that. At least Some teams in Marvell internally has copy of it.
What is their incentive to upstream? They ask me the same thing.


>
> > - If it an external library, we might as well add the PMD code as well
> > there and that only 10% of the real stuff.
> > We are not able able to improve anything in this library due to this
> situation.
> >
> > Does anyone care about this PMD? If not, we might as well remove this
> > DPDK and every vendor can manage the external library and external
> > PMD(Situation won't change much)
>
> External PMD is bad.
>

It is SHIM layer. I would say external library also bad if it is specific
to DPDK.

I think this library should not be specific to DPDK,
>

Sadly it is VERY specific to DPDK for doing authentication and encryption
in one shot to improve the performance. Openssl has already has armv8
instructions support for doing it as two pass just that performance is not
good. For use cae such as  IPsec it make sense do authentication and
encryption in one shot for performance improvement.

so it would make sense as an external library


If it an external library, it does NOT make  much sense for Marvell to
maintain it(No incentive and it is pain due lack of collaboration)

Either someone need to step up and maintain it if we NOT choose to make it
as external else we can remove the PMD from dpdk(Makes life easy for
everyone). I don't want to maintain something not upsteamble nor
collaboration friendly aka less quality.

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> > Thoughts from ARM, other ARMv8 vendors or community?
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