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From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
	"Anatoly Burakov" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
Cc: fengchengwen <fengchengwen@huawei.com>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Konstantin Ananyev" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	"David Marchand" <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 12:58:22 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1OrLJKGdCAVNfYauiTAccAZYFEhAdPJvecTo1XCZnnVKA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b878d8d8-3524-4640-86af-1c063dd65e8a@lysator.liu.se>

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 11:05 AM Mattias Rönnblom <hofors@lysator.liu.se> wrote:
>
> On 2024-09-12 04:33, fengchengwen wrote:
> > On 2024/9/12 1:04, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
> >> Introduce DPDK per-lcore id variables, or lcore variables for short.
> >>
> >> An lcore variable has one value for every current and future lcore
> >> id-equipped thread.
> >>
> >> The primary <rte_lcore_var.h> use case is for statically allocating
> >> small, frequently-accessed data structures, for which one instance
> >> should exist for each lcore.
> >>
> >> Lcore variables are similar to thread-local storage (TLS, e.g., C11
> >> _Thread_local), but decoupling the values' life time with that of the
> >> threads.
> >>
> >> Lcore variables are also similar in terms of functionality provided by
> >> FreeBSD kernel's DPCPU_*() family of macros and the associated
> >> build-time machinery. DPCPU uses linker scripts, which effectively
> >> prevents the reuse of its, otherwise seemingly viable, approach.
> >>
> >> The currently-prevailing way to solve the same problem as lcore
> >> variables is to keep a module's per-lcore data as RTE_MAX_LCORE-sized
> >> array of cache-aligned, RTE_CACHE_GUARDed structs. The benefit of
> >> lcore variables over this approach is that data related to the same
> >> lcore now is close (spatially, in memory), rather than data used by
> >> the same module, which in turn avoid excessive use of padding,
> >> polluting caches with unused data.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Mattias Rönnblom <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
> >> Acked-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> >>
> >> --
> >>

> >> +
> >> +#define LCORE_BUFFER_SIZE (RTE_MAX_LCORE_VAR * RTE_MAX_LCORE)
> >> +
> >> +static void *lcore_buffer;
> >> +static size_t offset = RTE_MAX_LCORE_VAR;
> >> +
> >> +static void *
> >> +lcore_var_alloc(size_t size, size_t align)
> >> +{
> >> +    void *handle;
> >> +    void *value;
> >> +
> >> +    offset = RTE_ALIGN_CEIL(offset, align);
> >> +
> >> +    if (offset + size > RTE_MAX_LCORE_VAR) {
> >> +#ifdef RTE_EXEC_ENV_WINDOWS
> >> +            lcore_buffer = _aligned_malloc(LCORE_BUFFER_SIZE,
> >> +                                           RTE_CACHE_LINE_SIZE);
> >> +#else
> >> +            lcore_buffer = aligned_alloc(RTE_CACHE_LINE_SIZE,
> >> +                                         LCORE_BUFFER_SIZE);
> >> +#endif
> >> +            RTE_VERIFY(lcore_buffer != NULL);
> >> +
> >> +            offset = 0;
> >> +    }
> >> +
> >> +    handle = RTE_PTR_ADD(lcore_buffer, offset);
> >> +
> >> +    offset += size;
> >> +
> >> +    RTE_LCORE_VAR_FOREACH_VALUE(value, handle)
> >> +            memset(value, 0, size);
> >> +
> >> +    EAL_LOG(DEBUG, "Allocated %"PRIuPTR" bytes of per-lcore data with a "
> >> +            "%"PRIuPTR"-byte alignment", size, align);
> >
> > Currrent the data was malloc by libc function, I think it's mainly for such INIT macro which will be init before main.
> > But it will introduce following problem:
> > 1\ it can't benefit from huge-pages. this patch may reserved many 1MBs for each lcore, if we could place it in huge-pages it will reduce the TLB miss rate, especially it freq access data.
>
> This mechanism is for small allocations, which the sum of is also
> expected to be small (although the system won't break if they aren't).
>
> If you have large allocations, you are better off using lazy huge page
> allocations further down the initialization process. Otherwise, you will
> end up using memory for RTE_MAX_LCORE instances, rather than the actual
> lcore count, which could be substantially smaller.

+ @Anatoly Burakov

If I am not wrong, DPDK huge page memory allocator (rte_malloc()), may
have similar overhead glibc once. Meaning, The hugepage allocated only
when needed and space is over.
if so, why not use rte_malloc() if available.



>
> But sure, everything else being equal, you could have used huge pages
> for these lcore variable values. But everything isn't equal.
>
> > 2\ it can't across multi-process. many of current lcore-data also don't support multi-process, but I think it worth do that, and it will help us to some service recovery when sub-process failed and reboot.
> >
> > ...
> >
>
> Not sure I think that's a downside. Further cementing that anti-pattern
> into DPDK seems to be a bad idea to me.
>
> lcore variables doesn't *introduce* any of these issues, since the
> mechanisms it's replacing also have these shortcomings (if you think
> about them as such - I'm not sure I do).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-12  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 184+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-08 18:16 [RFC 0/5] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 1/5] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-09  8:25   ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-09 11:46     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-09 13:04       ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19  7:49         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19 11:10           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19 14:31             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19 15:04               ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19  9:40   ` [RFC v2 0/5] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 1/5] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49       ` [RFC v3 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  9:11           ` Bruce Richardson
2024-02-20 10:47             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20 11:39               ` Bruce Richardson
2024-02-20 13:37                 ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-20 16:26                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-21  9:43           ` Jerin Jacob
2024-02-21 10:31             ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-21 14:26             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-22  9:22           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-23 10:12             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03           ` [RFC v4 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-27  9:58               ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-27 13:44                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-27 15:05                   ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-27 16:27                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-27 16:51                       ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-28 10:09               ` [RFC v5 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-19 12:52                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-03-20 10:24                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-20 14:18                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-05-06  8:27                   ` [RFC v6 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                       ` [PATCH 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  9:32                           ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-10 10:44                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 13:07                               ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-10 15:55                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-11 10:32                           ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-11 15:05                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 15:07                               ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-11 17:04                           ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  2:33                               ` fengchengwen
2024-09-12  5:35                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  7:05                                   ` fengchengwen
2024-09-12  7:28                                   ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2024-09-12  8:44                               ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 10:52                                   ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 14:02                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-16 17:39                                         ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16 23:19                                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-17  7:12                                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-17  8:09                                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-17 14:28                                         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 16:11                                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  7:00                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 16:29                                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  7:50                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                       ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                           ` [PATCH v6 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:24                                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  8:25                                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                               ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  9:23                                                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  9:30                                                 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Lcore variables fengchengwen
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:25                                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 15:40                                           ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-18  6:05                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 11:13                                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 11:54                                         ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16 16:12                                           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 17:19                                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 16:11                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 16:12                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 16:13                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 16:14                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  9:39                                   ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-12 13:01                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12 13:09                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-12 13:20                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12 15:11                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-13  6:47                                         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-13 11:23                                           ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-13 14:40                                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16  8:12                                               ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-16  9:51                                                 ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16 10:50                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18 10:04                                               ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  9:10                               ` [PATCH v2 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Morten Brørup
2024-09-12 13:16                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-12 13:41                                   ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-12 15:22                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-18 10:11                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  7:35                               ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-12  8:56                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-02 14:42                     ` [RFC v6 0/6] Lcore variables Morten Brørup
2024-09-10  6:41                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 15:41                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 16:28               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20 15:31           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-22  9:42           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-23 10:19             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 2/5] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 3/5] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19 11:22       ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19 14:04         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19 15:10           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 4/5] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 5/5] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 2/5] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 3/5] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 4/5] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 5/5] service: " Mattias Rönnblom

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