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From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	 Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	 dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>, Elena Agostini <eagostini@nvidia.com>,
	 David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>,
	 "Wang, Haiyue" <haiyue.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] gpudev: introduce memory API
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 19:24:30 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1P2nFNz0QnoXgX8ftcEua8B7YDVK9GMJWgN_r9QYLBrzg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3716354.mlbyQRhZUS@thomas>

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 4:13 PM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
>
> 07/06/2021 09:20, Wang, Haiyue:
> > From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
> > > If we keep CXL in mind, I would imagine that in the future the devices on PCIe could have their own
> > > local memory. May be some of the APIs could use generic names. For ex: instead of calling it as
> > > "rte_gpu_malloc" may be we could call it as "rte_dev_malloc". This way any future device which hosts
> > > its own memory that need to be managed by the application, can use these APIs.
> > >
> >
> > "rte_dev_malloc" sounds a good name,
>
> Yes I like the idea.
> 2 concerns:
>
> 1/ Device memory allocation requires a device handle.
> So far we avoided exposing rte_device to the application.
> How should we get a device handle from a DPDK application?

Each device behaves differently at this level. In the view of the
generic application, the architecture should like

< Use DPDK subsystem as rte_ethdev, rte_bbdev etc for SPECIFIC function >
^
|
< DPDK driver>
^
|
<rte_device with this new callbacks >

An implementation may decide to have "in tree" or "out of tree"
drivers or rte_device implementaion.
But generic DPDK applications should not use devices directly. i.e
rte_device need to have this callback and
mlx ethdev/crypto driver use this driver to implement public API.
Otherwise, it is the same as rawdev in DPDK.
So not sure what it brings other than raw dev here if we are not
taking the above architecture.

>
> 2/ Implementation must be done in a driver.
> Should it be a callback defined at rte_device level?

IMO, Yes and DPDK subsystem drivers to use it.

>
> > then looks like we need to enhance the
> > 'struct rte_device' with some new ops as:
> >
> > eal: move DMA mapping from bus-specific to generic driver
> >
> > https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/20210331224547.2217759-1-thomas@monjalon.net/
>
> Not sure the above patch is a good idea.
> Let's discuss this DMA detail later :)
>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-07 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-02 20:35 Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-02 20:46 ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-06-02 20:48   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-03  7:06 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-03  7:26   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-03  7:49     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-03  8:26       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-03  8:57         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-03  7:18 ` David Marchand
2021-06-03  7:30   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-03  7:47 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-03  8:28   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-03  8:41     ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-03  8:43       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-03  8:47         ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-03  8:53           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-03  9:20             ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-03  9:36               ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-03 10:04                 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-03 10:30                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-03 11:38                     ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-04 12:55                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-04 15:05                         ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-03  9:33   ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-04 10:28     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-04 11:09       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-04 12:46         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-04 13:05           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-04 13:18             ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-04 13:59               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-06-04 14:09                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-04 15:20                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-04 15:51                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-04 18:20                       ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-05  5:09                         ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-06  1:13                           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-06-06  5:28                             ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-07 10:29                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-07  7:20                             ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-07 10:43                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-07 13:54                                 ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2021-06-07 16:47                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-08  4:10                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-08  6:34                                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-08  7:09                                         ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-08  7:32                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-15 18:24                                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-15 18:54                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-07 23:31                                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-06-04  5:51 ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-04  8:15   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-04 11:07 ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-04 12:43   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-04 13:25     ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-04 14:06       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-04 18:04         ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-05  7:49           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-06-05 11:09             ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-06  1:10 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-06-07 10:50   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 13:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] heterogeneous computing library Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 13:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] hcdev: introduce heterogeneous computing device library Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 13:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] hcdev: add event notification Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 13:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] hcdev: add child device representing a device context Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 13:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] hcdev: support multi-process Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 13:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] hcdev: add memory API Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 13:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] hcdev: add communication flag Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 13:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] hcdev: add communication list Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-31  7:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] heterogeneous computing library Jerin Jacob
2021-07-31  8:21     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-31 13:42       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-08-27  9:44         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-08-27 12:19           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-08-29  5:32             ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-09-01 15:35               ` Elena Agostini
2021-09-02 13:12                 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-09-06 16:11                   ` Elena Agostini
2021-09-06 17:15                     ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-09-06 17:22                       ` Elena Agostini
2021-09-07  0:55                         ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-10-09  1:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/9] GPU library eagostini
2021-10-09  1:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/9] gpudev: introduce GPU device class library eagostini
2021-10-09  1:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/9] gpudev: add event notification eagostini
2021-10-09  1:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/9] gpudev: add child device representing a device context eagostini
2021-10-09  1:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/9] gpudev: support multi-process eagostini
2021-10-09  1:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/9] gpudev: add memory API eagostini
2021-10-08 20:18     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-29 19:38     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2021-11-08 15:16       ` Elena Agostini
2021-10-09  1:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/9] gpudev: add memory barrier eagostini
2021-10-08 20:16     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-09  1:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/9] gpudev: add communication flag eagostini
2021-10-09  1:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 8/9] gpudev: add communication list eagostini
2021-10-09  1:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 9/9] doc: add CUDA example in GPU guide eagostini
2021-10-10 10:16   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/9] GPU library Jerin Jacob
2021-10-11  8:18     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-11  8:43       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-11  9:12         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-11  9:29           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-11 10:27             ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-11 11:41               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-11 12:44                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-11 13:30                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-19 10:00                     ` Elena Agostini
2021-10-19 18:47                       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-10-19 19:11                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-10-19 19:56                           ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2021-11-03 19:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " eagostini
2021-11-03 19:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/9] gpudev: introduce GPU device class library eagostini
2021-11-03 19:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/9] gpudev: add event notification eagostini
2021-11-03 19:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/9] gpudev: add child device representing a device context eagostini
2021-11-03 19:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/9] gpudev: support multi-process eagostini
2021-11-03 19:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/9] gpudev: add memory API eagostini
2021-11-03 19:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/9] gpudev: add memory barrier eagostini
2021-11-03 19:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/9] gpudev: add communication flag eagostini
2021-11-03 19:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 8/9] gpudev: add communication list eagostini
2021-11-03 19:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 9/9] doc: add CUDA example in GPU guide eagostini
2021-11-08 18:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/9] GPU library eagostini
2021-11-08 16:25   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-11-08 18:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/9] gpudev: introduce GPU device class library eagostini
2021-11-08 18:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/9] gpudev: add event notification eagostini
2021-11-08 18:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/9] gpudev: add child device representing a device context eagostini
2021-11-08 18:58   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/9] gpudev: support multi-process eagostini
2021-11-08 18:58   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/9] gpudev: add memory API eagostini
2021-11-08 18:58   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/9] gpudev: add memory barrier eagostini
2021-11-08 18:58   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 7/9] gpudev: add communication flag eagostini
2021-11-08 18:58   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 8/9] gpudev: add communication list eagostini
2021-11-08 18:58   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 9/9] doc: add CUDA example in GPU guide eagostini

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