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From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, "Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Konstantin Ananyev" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	"David Marchand" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	"Jerin Jacob" <jerinj@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 13:42:02 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1PfLdNLee2odd6BXnL5NjmppGTmTFsc6hrwc=MMQ3e1=A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F6E2@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 8:10 PM Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Jerin Jacob [mailto:jerinjacobk@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 13 September 2024 13.24
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 12:17 PM Mattias Rönnblom <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2024-09-12 17:11, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 6:50 PM Mattias Rönnblom <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2024-09-12 15:09, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > > >>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 2:34 PM Mattias Rönnblom
> > > >>> <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com> wrote:
> > > >>>> +static double
> > > >>>> +benchmark_access_method(void (*init_fun)(void), void
> > (*update_fun)(void))
> > > >>>> +{
> > > >>>> +       uint64_t i;
> > > >>>> +       uint64_t start;
> > > >>>> +       uint64_t end;
> > > >>>> +       double latency;
> > > >>>> +
> > > >>>> +       init_fun();
> > > >>>> +
> > > >>>> +       start = rte_get_timer_cycles();
> > > >>>> +
> > > >>>> +       for (i = 0; i < ITERATIONS; i++)
> > > >>>> +               update_fun();
> > > >>>> +
> > > >>>> +       end = rte_get_timer_cycles();
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Use precise variant. rte_rdtsc_precise() or so to be accurate
> > > >>
> > > >> With 1e7 iterations, do you need rte_rdtsc_precise()? I suspect not.
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking in another way, with 1e7 iteration, the additional
> > > > barrier on precise will be amortized, and we get more _deterministic_
> > > > behavior e.s.p in case if we print cycles and if we need to catch
> > > > regressions.
> > >
> > > If you time a section of code which spends ~40000000 cycles, it doesn't
> > > matter if you add or remove a few cycles at the beginning and the end.
> > >
> > > The rte_rdtsc_precise() is both better (more precise in the sense of
> > > more serialization), and worse (because it's more costly, and thus more
> > > intrusive).
> >
> > We can calibrate the overhead to remove the cost.
> >
> > >
> > > You can use rte_rdtsc_precise(), rte_rdtsc(), or gettimeofday(). It
> > > doesn't matter.
> >
> > Yes. In this setup and it is pretty inaccurate PER iteration. Please
> > refer to the below patch to see the difference.
>
> No, Mattias is right. The time is sampled once before the loop, then the function is executed 10 million (ITERATIONS) times in the loop, and then the time is sampled once again.

No. I am not disagreeing. That why I said, “Yes. In this setup”.

All I am saying, there is a more accurate way of doing measurement for
this test along with “data” at
https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2024-September/301227.html


>
> So the overhead and accuracy of the timing function is amortized across the 10 million calls to the function being measured, and becomes insignificant.
>
> Other perf tests also do it this way, and also use rte_get_timer_cycles(). E.g. the mempool_perf test.
>
> Another detail: The for loop itself may cost a few cycles, which may not be irrelevant when measuring a function using very few cycles. If the compiler doesn't unroll the loop, it should be done manually:
>
>         for (i = 0; i < ITERATIONS / 100; i++) {
>                 update_fun();
>                 update_fun();
>                 ... repeated 100 times

I have done a similar scheme for trace perf for inline function test
at https://github.com/DPDK/dpdk/blob/main/app/test/test_trace_perf.c#L30

Either the above scheme or the below scheme needs to be used as
mentioned in https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2024-September/301227.html

+       for (i = 0; i < ITERATIONS; i++) {
+               start = rte_rdtsc_precise();
                update_fun();
+               end = rte_rdtsc_precise();
+               latency += (end - start) - tsc_latency;
+       }




>         }
>
>
> >
> > Patch 1: Make nanoseconds to cycles per iteration
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > diff --git a/app/test/test_lcore_var_perf.c b/app/test/test_lcore_var_perf.c
> > index ea1d7ba90b52..b8d25400f593 100644
> > --- a/app/test/test_lcore_var_perf.c
> > +++ b/app/test/test_lcore_var_perf.c
> > @@ -110,7 +110,7 @@ benchmark_access_method(void (*init_fun)(void),
> > void (*update_fun)(void))
> >
> >         end = rte_get_timer_cycles();
> >
> > -       latency = ((end - start) / (double)rte_get_timer_hz()) / ITERATIONS;
> > +       latency = ((end - start)) / ITERATIONS;
>
> This calculation uses integer arithmetic, which will round down the resulting latency.
> Please use floating point arithmetic: latency = (end - start) / (double)ITERATIONS;

Yup. It is in patch 2
https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2024-September/301227.html

>
> >
> >         return latency;
> >  }
> > @@ -137,8 +137,7 @@ test_lcore_var_access(void)
> >
> > -       printf("Latencies [ns/update]\n");
> > +       printf("Latencies [cycles/update]\n");
> >         printf("Thread-local storage  Static array  Lcore variables\n");
> > -       printf("%20.1f %13.1f %16.1f\n", tls_latency * 1e9,
> > -              sarray_latency * 1e9, lvar_latency * 1e9);
> > +       printf("%20.1f %13.1f %16.1f\n", tls_latency, sarray_latency,
> > lvar_latency);
> >
> >         return TEST_SUCCESS;
> >  }

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-16  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 184+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-08 18:16 [RFC 0/5] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 1/5] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-09  8:25   ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-09 11:46     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-09 13:04       ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19  7:49         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19 11:10           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19 14:31             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19 15:04               ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19  9:40   ` [RFC v2 0/5] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 1/5] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49       ` [RFC v3 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  9:11           ` Bruce Richardson
2024-02-20 10:47             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20 11:39               ` Bruce Richardson
2024-02-20 13:37                 ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-20 16:26                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-21  9:43           ` Jerin Jacob
2024-02-21 10:31             ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-21 14:26             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-22  9:22           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-23 10:12             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03           ` [RFC v4 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-27  9:58               ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-27 13:44                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-27 15:05                   ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-27 16:27                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-27 16:51                       ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-28 10:09               ` [RFC v5 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-19 12:52                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-03-20 10:24                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-20 14:18                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-05-06  8:27                   ` [RFC v6 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                       ` [PATCH 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  9:32                           ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-10 10:44                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 13:07                               ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-10 15:55                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-11 10:32                           ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-11 15:05                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 15:07                               ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-11 17:04                           ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  2:33                               ` fengchengwen
2024-09-12  5:35                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  7:05                                   ` fengchengwen
2024-09-12  7:28                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-12  8:44                               ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 10:52                                   ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 14:02                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-16 17:39                                         ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16 23:19                                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-17  7:12                                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-17  8:09                                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-17 14:28                                         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 16:11                                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  7:00                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 16:29                                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  7:50                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                       ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                           ` [PATCH v6 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:24                                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  8:25                                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                               ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Lcore variables Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  9:23                                                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:26                                                 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  9:30                                                 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Lcore variables fengchengwen
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:25                                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18  8:00                                             ` [PATCH v6 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 15:40                                           ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-18  6:05                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-17 14:32                                         ` [PATCH v5 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 11:13                                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 11:54                                         ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16 16:12                                           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 17:19                                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 16:11                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 16:12                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 16:13                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-16 10:52                                     ` [PATCH v4 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 16:14                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] eal: add lcore variable functional tests Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] eal: add lcore variable performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  9:39                                   ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-12 13:01                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12 13:09                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-12 13:20                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12 15:11                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-13  6:47                                         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-13 11:23                                           ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-13 14:40                                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16  8:12                                               ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2024-09-16  9:51                                                 ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-16 10:50                                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18 10:04                                               ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  8:44                                 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  9:10                               ` [PATCH v2 1/6] eal: add static per-lcore memory allocation facility Morten Brørup
2024-09-12 13:16                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-12 13:41                                   ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-12 15:22                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-18 10:11                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12  7:35                               ` Jerin Jacob
2024-09-12  8:56                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04                             ` [PATCH v2 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10  7:03                         ` [PATCH 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-06  8:27                     ` [RFC v6 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-02 14:42                     ` [RFC v6 0/6] Lcore variables Morten Brørup
2024-09-10  6:41                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 15:41                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-28 10:09                 ` [RFC v5 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 16:28               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-25 15:03             ` [RFC v4 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 2/6] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 3/6] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20 15:31           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 4/6] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 5/6] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-22  9:42           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-23 10:19             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-20  8:49         ` [RFC v3 6/6] eal: keep per-lcore power intrinsics " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 2/5] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 3/5] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19 11:22       ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19 14:04         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19 15:10           ` Morten Brørup
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 4/5] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-19  9:40     ` [RFC v2 5/5] service: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 2/5] eal: add lcore variable test suite Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 3/5] random: keep PRNG state in lcore variable Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 4/5] power: keep per-lcore " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-02-08 18:16 ` [RFC 5/5] service: " Mattias Rönnblom

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