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From: "Stanisław Kardach" <kda@semihalf.com>
To: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Cc: Sivaprasad Tummala <sivaprasad.tummala@amd.com>,
	Ruifeng Wang <ruifeng.wang@arm.com>,
	 Min Zhou <zhoumin@loongson.cn>,
	David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	 Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	 Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	dev <dev@dpdk.org>,  Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] eal: remove NUMFLAGS enumeration
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 08:00:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALVGJWLebc=w9RC_Sywo1Ou7B08EQrXCOwco_G+tgqYvx=p8ag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJFAV8wh9XigLwMkHu5bc0WRKPbSmi1veg3jeiEjZfXKu8qekQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 4:47 PM David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
wrote:
<snip>
> > Also I see you're still removing the RTE_CPUFLAG_NUMFLAGS (what I call
a last element canary). Why? If you're concerned with ABI, then we're
talking about an application linking dynamically with DPDK or talking via
some RPC channel with another DPDK application. So clashing with this
definition does not come into question. One should rather use
rte_cpu_get_flag_enabled().
> > Also if you want to introduce new features, one would add them yo the
rte_cpuflags headers, unless you'd like to not add those and keep an
undocumented list "above" the last defined element.
> > Could you explain a bit more Your use-case?
>
> Hey Stanislaw,
>
> Talking generically, one problem with such pattern (having a LAST, or
> MAX enum) is when an array sized with such a symbol is exposed.
> As I mentionned in the past, this can have unwanted effects:
>
https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/20230919140430.3251493-1-david.marchand@redhat.com/
I agree, though I'd argue "LAST" and "MAX" semantics are a bit different.
"LAST" delimits the known enumeration territory while "MAX" is more of a
`constepxr` value type.
>
> Another issue is when an existing enum meaning changes: from the
> application pov, the (old) MAX value is incorrect, but for the library
> pov, a new meaning has been associated.
> This may trigger bugs in the application when calling a function that
> returns such an enum which never return this MAX value in the past.
>
> For at least those two reasons, removing those canary elements is
> being done in DPDK.
>
> This specific removal has been announced:
>
https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/20230919140430.3251493-1-david.marchand@redhat.com/
Thanks for pointing this out but did you mean to link to the patch again
here?
>
> Now, practically, when I look at the cpuflags API, I don't see us
> exposed to those two issues wrt rte_cpu_flag_t, so maybe this change
> is unneeded.
> But on the other hand, is it really an issue for an application to
> lose this (internal) information?
I doubt it, maybe it could be used as a sanity check for choosing proper
functors in the application. Though the initial description of the reason
behind this patch was to not break the ABI and I don't think it does that.
What it does is enforces users to use explicit cpu flag values which is a
good thing. Though if so, then it should be stated in the commit
description.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-20  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-02 21:11 [PATCH 1/2] eal: remove RTE_CPUFLAG_NUMFLAGS Sivaprasad Tummala
2023-08-02 21:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] test/cpuflags: " Sivaprasad Tummala
2023-08-02 23:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] eal: " Stanisław Kardach
2023-08-11  4:02   ` Tummala, Sivaprasad
2023-08-11  6:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] test/cpuflags: removed test for NUMFLAGS Sivaprasad Tummala
2023-08-11  6:07   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] eal: remove NUMFLAGS enumeration Sivaprasad Tummala
2023-08-15  6:10     ` Stanisław Kardach
2023-09-19 14:47       ` David Marchand
2023-09-20  6:00         ` Stanisław Kardach [this message]
2023-09-20  7:34           ` David Marchand
2023-09-21 13:18             ` Tummala, Sivaprasad
2023-09-21 14:49               ` Stanisław Kardach
2023-09-27 11:55                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-27 13:48                   ` Stanisław Kardach
2023-09-27 14:09                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-27 15:03                       ` Stanisław Kardach
2023-09-27 16:13                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-27 13:13     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-28  9:31       ` Tummala, Sivaprasad
2023-10-06  8:27     ` David Marchand
2023-10-06 11:19       ` Ferruh Yigit

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