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From: Dmitry Kozlyuk <dkozlyuk@oss.nvidia.com>
To: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: Ori Kam <orika@oss.nvidia.com>,
	NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/5] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 12:38:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CH0PR12MB509192DB4032F2E0CDD8AB68B9BD9@CH0PR12MB5091.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ec7101f-169e-cbd0-87bb-810b7476c7d0@oktetlabs.ru>

> > [...]
> > Add a device capability bit for PMDs that can keep at least some
> > of the flow rules across restart. Without this capability behavior
> > is still unspecified, which is now explicitly stated.
> > Declare that the application can test for persitence of flow rules
> > of a particular kind by attempting to create a rule of that kind
> > when the device is stopped and checking for the specific error.
> 
> stopped -> configured but not yet started

Correct, fixed in v3.

> > diff --git a/doc/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.rst
> b/doc/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.rst
> > index 2b42d5ec8c..b0ced4209b 100644
> > --- a/doc/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.rst
> > +++ b/doc/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.rst
> > @@ -87,6 +87,33 @@ To avoid resource leaks on the PMD side, handles must
> be explicitly
> >  destroyed by the application before releasing associated resources such
> as
> >  queues and ports.
> >
> > +By default it is unspecified if the flow rules persist after the device
> stop.
> 
> or can be created before the first device start

Correct, fixed in v3.

> 
> > +If ``RTE_ETH_DEV_CAPA_FLOW_RULE_KEEP`` is not advertised,
> > +then rules must be explicitly flushed before stopping the device
> > +if the application needs to ensure they are removed.
> > +If it is advertised, this means the PMD can keep at least some rules
> > +across the device stop and start with possible reconfiguration in
> between.
> > +However, it may be only supported for some kinds of rules.
> > +The kind is a combination of the following rule properties:
> > +
> > +- the sequence of item types;
> > +- the sequence of action types;
> > +- the value of the transfer attribute.
> > +
> > +To test if a particular kind of rules is kept, the application must try
> > +to create a valid rule of that kind when the device is stopped
> > +(after it has been configured or started previously).
> > +If it succeeds, all rules of the same kind are kept at the device stop.
> > +If it fails with an error of type ``RTE_FLOW_ERROR_TYPE_STATE``,
> > +rules of this kind are flushed when the device is stopped.
> > +Rules of a kept kind that are created when the device is stopped,
> including
> > +the rules created for the test, will be kept after the device is
> started.
> 
> It must be defined what application should expect for
> not tested rule kinds.
> 
> For me about check sounds extremely complicated and hardly
> doable. Yes, some applications know kinds of rule it would
> like to create, but some, like OvS, do not. Please, correct
> me if I'm wrong. OvS knows which types of actions and even
> possible combinations of actions (harder, but still possible)
> it would like to install. But all possible combinations of
> items together with all possible combinations of actions
> could be very-very big.
> 
> May be I still misunderstand the above idea.

This is a very valid concern.
After an offline consideration me and Ori concluded
that an item/action type + transfer bit ("a feature") is enough.
That is, if some feature cannot be kept, no rules using it can be kept.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-19 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-05  0:52 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] Flow entites behavior on port restart dkozlyuk
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart dkozlyuk
2021-10-06  6:15   ` Ori Kam
2021-10-06  6:55     ` Somnath Kotur
2021-10-06 17:15   ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " dkozlyuk
2021-10-06  6:16   ` Ori Kam
2021-10-13  8:32   ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-14 13:46     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-14 21:45       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-14 21:48         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 11:46         ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-15 12:35           ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:26             ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-16 20:32               ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-18  8:42                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-18 11:13                   ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-18 11:59                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-14 14:14     ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15  8:26       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-15  9:04         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15  9:36           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX dkozlyuk
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] net/mlx5: create drop queue " dkozlyuk
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart dkozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/5] Flow entites behavior on port restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/5] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-18  8:56     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-19 12:38       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk [this message]
2021-10-18 13:06     ` Zhang, Qi Z
2021-10-18 22:51       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19  1:00         ` Zhang, Qi Z
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/5] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-17  8:10     ` Ori Kam
2021-10-17  9:14       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-17  9:45         ` Ori Kam
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/5] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/5] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/5] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/6] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 15:22       ` Ori Kam
2021-10-19 16:38       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-19 17:13         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-20 10:39       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-20 11:40         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-20 13:40           ` Ori Kam
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/6] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 15:22       ` Ori Kam
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/6] net: advertise no support for keeping flow rules Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-20 10:08       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-20 22:20         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/6] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/6] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/6] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-20 10:12     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-20 13:21       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:34     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:34       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/6] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  7:36         ` Ori Kam
2021-10-28 18:33         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-11-01 15:02         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-11-01 15:56           ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:34       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/6] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  7:37         ` Ori Kam
2021-10-21 18:28         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-11-01 15:04         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-21  6:35       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/6] net: advertise no support for keeping flow rules Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21 18:26         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-10-22  1:38           ` Somnath Kotur
2021-10-27  7:11         ` Hyong Youb Kim (hyonkim)
2021-11-01 15:06         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-11-01 16:59           ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-21  6:35       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/6] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:35       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/6] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:35       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/6] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-26 11:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Ferruh Yigit
2021-11-01 13:43         ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-11-02 13:49       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-11-02 13:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/6] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/6] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/6] net: advertise no support for keeping flow rules Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/6] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/6] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/6] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 14:23         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Ferruh Yigit
2021-11-02 17:02           ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/6] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/6] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/6] net: advertise no support for keeping flow rules Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/6] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/6] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/6] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 18:02           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Ferruh Yigit

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