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From: "Wang, Yipeng1" <yipeng1.wang@intel.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Medvedkin, Vladimir" <vladimir.medvedkin@intel.com>
Cc: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"Gobriel, Sameh" <sameh.gobriel@intel.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Suanming Mou" <suanmingm@mellanox.com>,
	"Olivier Matz" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"Xueming(Steven) Li" <xuemingl@mellanox.com>,
	"Andrew Rybchenko" <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	"Asaf Penso" <asafp@mellanox.com>, "Ori Kam" <orika@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] add new Double Word Key hash table
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:52:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D2C4A16CA39F7F4E8E384D204491D7A68318229E@ORSMSX104.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200316123253.7566d799@hermes.lan>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 PM
> To: Medvedkin, Vladimir <vladimir.medvedkin@intel.com>
> Cc: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>; dev@dpdk.org;
> Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; Wang, Yipeng1
> <yipeng1.wang@intel.com>; Gobriel, Sameh <sameh.gobriel@intel.com>;
> Richardson, Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; Suanming Mou
> <suanmingm@mellanox.com>; Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>;
> Xueming(Steven) Li <xuemingl@mellanox.com>; Andrew Rybchenko
> <arybchenko@solarflare.com>; Asaf Penso <asafp@mellanox.com>; Ori Kam
> <orika@mellanox.com>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] add new Double Word Key hash table
> 
> On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:27:40 +0000
> "Medvedkin, Vladimir" <vladimir.medvedkin@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Morten,
> >
> >
> > On 16/03/2020 14:39, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > >> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Vladimir
> > >> Medvedkin
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 2:38 PM
> > >>
> > >> Currently DPDK has a special implementation of a hash table for
> > >> 4 byte keys which is called FBK hash. Unfortunately its main
> > >> drawback is that it only supports 2 byte values.
> > >> The new implementation called DWK (double word key) hash supports 8
> > >> byte values, which is enough to store a pointer.
> > >>
> > >> It would also be nice to get feedback on whether to leave the old
> > >> FBK and new DWK implementations, or whether to deprecate the old
> one?
> > > <rant on>
> > >
> > > Who comes up with these names?!?
> > >
> > > FBK (Four Byte Key) and DWK (Double Word Key) is supposed to mean
> the same. Could you use 32 somewhere in the name instead, like in int32_t,
> instead of using a growing list of creative synonyms for the same thing?
> Pretty please, with a cherry on top!
> >
> >
> > That's true, at first I named it as fbk2, but then it was decided to
> > rename it "dwk", so that there was no confusion with the existing FBK
> > library. Naming suggestions are welcome!
> >
> > >
> > > And if the value size is fixed too, perhaps the name should also indicate
> the value size.
> > >
> > > <rant off>
> > >
> > > It's a shame we don't have C++ class templates available in DPDK...
> > >
> > > In other news, Mellanox has sent an RFC for an "indexed memory pool"
> library [1] to conserve memory by using uintXX_t instead of pointers, so
> perhaps a variant of a 32 bit key hash library with 32 bit values (in addition to
> 16 bit values in FBK and 64 bit in DWK) would be nice combination with that
> library.
> > >
> > > [1]: http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2019-October/147513.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Med venlig hilsen / kind regards
> > > - Morten Brørup
> > >
> 
> Why is this different (or better) than existing rte_hash.
> Having more flavors is not necessarily a good thing (except in Gelato)
 [Wang, Yipeng]
Hi, Vladimir,
As Stephen mentioned, I think it is good idea to explain the benefit of this new type of hash table more explicitly such as
Specific use cases, differences with current rte_hash, and performance numbers, etc.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-17 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-16 13:38 Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-03-16 13:38 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] hash: add dwk hash library Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-03-16 13:38 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/3] test: add dwk hash autotests Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-03-16 13:38 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/3] test: add dwk perf tests Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-03-16 14:39 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] add new Double Word Key hash table Morten Brørup
2020-03-16 18:27   ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-03-16 19:32     ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-03-17 19:52       ` Wang, Yipeng1 [this message]
2020-03-26 17:28         ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-03-31 19:55           ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-03-31 21:17             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-01 18:37               ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-04-01 18:28             ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-03-16 19:33     ` Morten Brørup
2020-04-08 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] add new k32v64 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-15 18:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-15 18:51     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-16 10:18       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-04-16 11:40         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-17  0:21           ` Wang, Yipeng1
2020-04-23 16:19             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-05-08 20:08             ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-04-16  9:39     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-04-16 14:02       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-04-16 14:38         ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-05-08 19:58     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] add new kv " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-06-16 16:37       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-03-24 21:28       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-03-25 12:03         ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2023-06-12 16:11           ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-05-08 19:58     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] hash: add kv hash library Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-06-23 15:44       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-23 23:06         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-25 19:56           ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-06-25 19:49         ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-06-24  1:19       ` Wang, Yipeng1
2020-06-25 20:26         ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-06-25  4:27       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-08 19:58     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] hash: add documentation for " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-08 19:58     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] test: add kv hash autotests Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-08 19:58     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] test: add kv perf tests Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-15 18:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] hash: add k32v64 hash library Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-15 18:59     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2020-04-16 10:23       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-04-23 13:31     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-05-08 20:14       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-04-29 21:29     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-08 20:38       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-04-15 18:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] hash: add documentation for " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-15 18:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] test: add k32v64 hash autotests Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-15 18:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] test: add k32v64 perf tests Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-08 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/4] hash: add k32v64 hash library Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-08 23:23   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-04-08 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/4] hash: add documentation for " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-08 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/4] test: add k32v64 hash autotests Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-08 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/4] test: add k32v64 perf tests Vladimir Medvedkin

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