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From: "Robin Jarry" <rjarry@redhat.com>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"Medvedkin, Vladimir" <vladimir.medvedkin@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: rte_fib network order bug
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:01:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D5MRT5QLHY40.38W3GI5FJ5SCX@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F8CC@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

Morten Brørup, Nov 14, 2024 at 15:35:
>> RTE_IPV4 is only useful to define addresses in unit tests.
>
> There are plenty of special IP addresses and subnets, where a shortcut 
> macro makes the address easier readable in the code.

OK, let me reformulate. I didn't mean to say that RTE_IPV4 is useless. 
But it will always generate addresses in *host order*. Which means they 
cannot be used in IPv4 headers without passing them through htonl().
This is weird in my opinion.

>> Why would control plane use a different representation of addresses
>> compared to data plane?
>
> Excellent question.
> Old habit? Growing up using big endian CPUs, we have come to think of 
> IPv4 addresses as 32 bit numbers, so we keep treating them as such. 
> With this old way of thinking, the only reason to use network endian 
> in the fast path with little endian CPUs is for performance reasons 
> (to save the byte swap) - if not, we would still prefer using host 
> endian in the fast path too.

I understand the implementation reasons why you would prefer working 
with host order integers. But the APIs that deal with IPv4 addresses 
should not reflect implementation details.

>> Also for consistency with IPv6, I really think
>> that *all* addresses should be dealt in their network form.
>
> Food for thought!

Vladimir, could we at least consider adding a real network order mode 
for the rib and fib libraries? So that we can have consistent APIs 
between IPv4 and IPv6?

On that same topic, I wonder if it would make sense to change the API 
parameters to use an opaque rte_ipv4_addr_t type instead of a native 
uint32_t to avoid any confusion.

Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-15 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-12  9:31 Robin Jarry
2024-11-13 10:42 ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2024-11-13 13:27   ` Robin Jarry
2024-11-13 19:39     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2024-11-14  7:43       ` Morten Brørup
2024-11-14 10:18         ` Robin Jarry
2024-11-14 14:35           ` Morten Brørup
2024-11-15 13:01             ` Robin Jarry [this message]
2024-11-15 13:52               ` Morten Brørup
2024-11-15 14:07                 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-11-15 14:28                 ` Robin Jarry
2024-11-15 16:20                   ` Stephen Hemminger

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