From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
To: Ola Liljedahl <Ola.Liljedahl@arm.com>
Cc: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
"David Marchand" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
"onar.olsen@ericsson.com" <onar.olsen@ericsson.com>,
nd <nd@arm.com>,
"konstantin.ananyev@intel.com" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
"mb@smartsharesystems.com" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
"stephen@networkplumber.org" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3] eal: add seqlock
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 21:56:30 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBAPR08MB58143E3BD12E40E5E9AA430398E59@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F49A8BF5-A32A-485B-A093-80E1A412AD07@arm.com>
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>
>
> >>>> +__rte_experimental
> >>>> +static inline void
> >>>> +rte_seqlock_write_lock(rte_seqlock_t *seqlock) {
> >>>> + uint32_t sn;
> >>>> +
> >>>> + /* to synchronize with other writers */
> >>>> + rte_spinlock_lock(&seqlock->lock);
> >>>> +
> >>>> + sn = seqlock->sn + 1;
> >>> The load of seqlock->sn could use __atomic_load_n to be consistent.
> >>>
> >>
> >> But why? I know it doesn't have any cost (these loads are going to be
> >> atomic anyways), but why use a construct with stronger guarantees
> >> than you have to?
> > Using __atomic_xxx ensures that the operation is atomic always. I believe (I
> am not sure) that, when not using __atomic_xxx, the compiler is allowed to
> use non-atomic operations.
> > The other reason is we are not qualifying 'sn' as volatile. Use of
> __atomic_xxx inherently indicate to the compiler not to cache 'sn' in a
> register. I do not know the compiler behavior if some operations on 'sn' use
> __atomic_xxx and some do not.
> We don’t need an atomic read here as the seqlock->lock protects (serialises)
> writer-side accesses to seqlock->sn. There is no other thread which could
> update seqlock->sn while this thread owns the lock. The seqlock owner could
> read seqlock->sn byte for byte without any problems.
> Only writes to seqlock->sn need to be atomic as there might be readers who
> read seqlock->sn and in such multi-access scenarios, all accesses need to be
> atomic in order to avoid data races.
How does the compiler interpret a mix of __atomic_xxx and non-atomic access to a memory location? What are the guarantees the compiler provides in such cases?
Do you see any harm in making this an atomic operation?
>
> If seqlock->sn was a C11 _Atomic type, all accesses would automatically be
> atomic.
Exactly, we do not have that currently.
>
> - Ola
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-04 21:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-22 16:10 DPDK seqlock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-22 16:46 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-03-24 4:52 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-03-24 5:06 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-03-24 11:34 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-25 20:24 ` [RFC] eal: add seqlock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-25 21:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-03-26 14:57 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-27 14:49 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-03-27 17:42 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-28 10:53 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-03-28 14:06 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-29 8:32 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-29 13:20 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-03-30 10:07 ` [PATCH] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-30 10:50 ` Morten Brørup
2022-03-30 11:24 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-03-30 11:25 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-30 14:26 ` [PATCH v2] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-31 7:46 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-31 9:04 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-31 9:25 ` Morten Brørup
2022-03-31 9:38 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-31 10:03 ` Morten Brørup
2022-03-31 11:44 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-31 11:50 ` Morten Brørup
2022-03-31 14:02 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-01 15:07 ` [PATCH v3] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-02 0:21 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-02 11:01 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-02 19:38 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-10 13:51 ` [RFC 1/3] eal: add macro to warn for unused function return values Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-10 13:51 ` [RFC 2/3] eal: emit warning for unused trylock return value Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-10 13:51 ` [RFC 3/3] examples/bond: fix invalid use of trylock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 1:01 ` Min Hu (Connor)
2022-04-11 14:32 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 11:25 ` David Marchand
2022-04-11 14:33 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-10 18:02 ` [RFC 1/3] eal: add macro to warn for unused function return values Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-10 18:50 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 7:17 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-11 14:29 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 9:16 ` Bruce Richardson
2022-04-11 14:27 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 15:15 ` [PATCH " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 15:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] eal: emit warning for unused trylock return value Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 15:29 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-11 15:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] examples/bond: fix invalid use of trylock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-14 12:06 ` David Marchand
2022-04-11 15:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] eal: add macro to warn for unused function return values Morten Brørup
2022-04-11 18:24 ` [RFC " Tyler Retzlaff
2022-04-03 6:10 ` [PATCH v3] eal: add seqlock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-03 17:27 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-03 18:37 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-04 21:56 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli [this message]
2022-04-03 6:33 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-03 17:37 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-08 13:45 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-02 18:15 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-02 19:31 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-02 20:36 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-02 22:01 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-03 18:11 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-03 6:51 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-31 13:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-02 0:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-02 10:25 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-02 17:43 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-31 13:38 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-31 14:53 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-02 0:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-03 6:23 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-02 0:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-02 17:54 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-02 19:37 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-05 20:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-08 13:50 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-08 14:24 ` [PATCH v4] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-08 15:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-08 16:24 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-08 15:19 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-08 16:37 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-08 16:48 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-12 17:27 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-04-28 10:28 ` David Marchand
2022-05-01 13:46 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-01 14:03 ` [PATCH v5] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-01 14:22 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-02 6:47 ` David Marchand
2022-05-01 20:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-02 4:51 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-06 1:26 ` fengchengwen
2022-05-06 1:33 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-06 4:17 ` fengchengwen
2022-05-06 5:19 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-06 7:03 ` fengchengwen
2022-05-08 11:56 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-08 12:12 ` [PATCH v6] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-08 16:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-08 19:40 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-09 3:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-09 6:26 ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-13 6:27 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-23 12:04 ` DPDK seqlock Morten Brørup
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