From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
To: "Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>,
"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@microsoft.com>,
"konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
nd <nd@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: rte_atomic_*_explicit
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 01:37:13 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBAPR08MB5814DE2B5C2C3086D8832B8198792@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240125223438.GA22922@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net>
<snip>
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:10:47PM +0100, Morten Br�rup wrote:
> > > From: Mattias R�nnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2024 19.54
> > >
> > > Why do rte_stdatomic.h functions have the suffix "_explicit"?
> > > Especially
> > > since there aren't any wrappers for the implicit variants.
> > >
> > > More to type, more to read.
> >
> > They have the "_explicit" suffix to make their names similar to those in
> stdatomic.h.
> >
> > You might consider their existence somewhat temporary until C11 stdatomics
> can be fully phased in, so there's another argument for similar names. (This
> probably does not happen as long as compilers generate slower code for C11
> stdatomics than with their atomic built-ins.)
>
> yes, there was feedback at the time it was.
>
> * we should *not* have non-explicit versions of the macros
> * the atomic generic functions should be named to match C11 standard
> with a rte_ prefix.
This was mainly done to ensure that users think through the memory ordering they want to use. This also matches with the compiler atomic built-ins. Without explicit, it is sequentially consistent memory order.
>
> >
> > >
> > > When was this API introduced? Shouldn't it say "experimental"
> > > somewhere?
> >
> > They were introduced as part of the migration to C11.
> > I suppose they were not marked experimental because they replaced
> something we didn't want anymore (the compiler built-ins for atomics, e.g.
> __atomic_load_n()). I don't recall if we discussed experimental marking or not.
>
> i don't think we discussed it since they're wrapper macros.
>
> >
> >
> > Reverse paper trail:
> > https://git.dpdk.org/dpdk/log/lib/eal/include/rte_stdatomic.h
> > https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/1692738045-32363-2-git-
> send-email-roretzla@linux.microsoft.com/
> > https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/1692738045-32363-2-git-
> send-email-roretzla@linux.microsoft.com/
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-26 1:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-25 18:53 rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-25 22:10 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Morten Brørup
2024-01-25 22:34 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-26 1:37 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli [this message]
2024-01-26 8:12 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-26 16:58 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-01-26 21:03 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-26 8:07 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-26 10:52 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Morten Brørup
2024-01-26 21:35 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-27 20:34 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-30 18:36 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Tyler Retzlaff
2024-01-31 15:52 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
2024-01-31 17:34 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Morten Brørup
2024-01-27 19:08 ` rte_atomic_*_explicit Mattias Rönnblom
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