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This is as a good a time as any to do it. >>>=20 >>> Increasing diversity and inclusion is an overarching goal of many organ= izations >>> include my employer(Microsoft), the parent organization of DPDK(LF) >>> and my values. >>>=20 >>> Following values is more important than minor replacement of text in AP= I. =20 >>=20 >> I feel like Konstantin is correct here. >>=20 >> If we were using these terms for humans or groups of humans, then I woul= d agree they should be changed. We need to take into account the context of= the reference to these words. I agree some words should never be used in a= ny context, but these terms are very reasonable in the context of DPDK and = networking. >=20 > Have to disagree, the words matter. This has been discussed many times. > Please look at the footnotes from the Gnome post >=20 >=20 > [0] - , >=20 > [1] - > [2] - >=20 > [3] - , <= https://github.com/rust-community/foss-events-planner/issues/58> >=20 > [4] - > [5] - You chopped off my last sentence in your reply. "If everyone wants to accept the code churn (and it will effect a large nu= mber of applications, plus back porting will be more difficult IMO), then w= e can do it." So to be clear, I am not opposed to making this change, but wanted to point= out the technical impacts of this change to DPDK as a whole.