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From: Vamsi Krishna Attunuru <vattunuru@marvell.com>
To: "Gaëtan Rivet" <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>,
	"Slava Ovsiienko" <viacheslavo@mellanox.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"ferruh.yigit@intel.com" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"anatoly.burakov@intel.com" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran" <jerinj@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/1] bus/pci: probe PCI devices in whitelisted	order
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 04:15:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MWHPR18MB1645755325D193F818930E15A6860@MWHPR18MB1645.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190925090706.xeutwkjiee4hrglk@bidouze.vm.6wind.com>



-----Original Message-----
From: dev <dev-bounces@dpdk.org> On Behalf Of Gaëtan Rivet
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:37 PM
To: Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@mellanox.com>
Cc: Vamsi Krishna Attunuru <vattunuru@marvell.com>; dev@dpdk.org; ferruh.yigit@intel.com; anatoly.burakov@intel.com; Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/1] bus/pci: probe PCI devices in whitelisted order

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 06:41:36AM +0000, Slava Ovsiienko wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev <dev-bounces@dpdk.org> On Behalf Of vattunuru@marvell.com
> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 14:57
> > To: dev@dpdk.org
> > Cc: gaetan.rivet@6wind.com; ferruh.yigit@intel.com; 
> > anatoly.burakov@intel.com; Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; 
> > jerinj@marvell.com; Vamsi Attunuru <vattunuru@marvell.com>
> > Subject: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/1] bus/pci: probe PCI devices in 
> > whitelisted order
> > 
> > From: Vamsi Attunuru <vattunuru@marvell.com>
> > 
> > Current pci bus driver scans pci devices in the order that it read from sysfs.
> > Accordingly all or whitelisted devices are getting probed.
> > 
> > Patch modifies the probing order of whitelisted pci devices in a 
> > sequence the devices are whitelisted(using EAL flags).
> 
> Thanks, it would be nice to have opportunity to control probing order, 
> it might be useful for bonded devices and representors either.
> 
> Acked-by: Viacheslav Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@mellanox.com>
> 
> > 
> > It ensures the eth devices that application uses are probed in 
> > device whitelisted sequence, in turn it facilitates the packet 
> > forwarding applications to work without any packet loss or 
> > performance drop when the underneath network ports have different 
> > bandwidths. By altering the whitelist order applications like 
> > testpmd, l2fwd can forward the ingress traffic to egress port that has of equivalent bandwidth.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Vamsi Attunuru <vattunuru@marvell.com>

Hello Vamsi, Viacheslav,

This is a nice patch. I agree that port dependency could be better handled. The port-mapping part however should be managed at the app level.

Vamsi, you gave the example of l2fwd and testpmd, being able to properly configure forwarding directions implicitly. I think the better approach here is to add these configurations items within the apps directly. Configuring the mapping at the port level is not precise enough. The proper control is about cores, port and queues, not only ports.
This patch only solves a limited part of this issue with testpmd.

I wrote a command to do this, that collided with some stream rework from Intel at the time (3, 4 years back?), so I did not take the time to force it through. If there is a need we could discuss about adding this back. I had needed it to write a PMD, that could be useful to others.

As you say Viacheslav, there are use-cases that will rely on fine-grained probe order. However, this patch solves this issue only regarding PCI devices, depending on other PCI devices. We have in EAL an improper hack about it, forcing the vdev probe last, because usually ports depending on others are virtual ones. As this patch shows, the hack is not sufficient, and as the hack shows, this patch does not cover everything.

A solution, would be an EAL parameter (I propose --no-dev), that disable probing for all buses. Applications and devices requiring a fine-grained probe order, are then free to start in this mode (and maybe force it through EAL conf), then hotplug ports as they see fit.

This will keep the existing behavior stable for current apps, while allowing flexibility for the more advanced ones.


Hi Gaetan,

Thanks, vdev part was not taken care in this patch. Rather than imposing hotplug for every application which requires port mapping, If vdev probing order is also handled same as pdevs(in whitelist order),  existing whitelisting feature will serve the port mapping requirement, right. Also the existing applications get benefited instead of overloading them with more configuration options.  If these probing order is not needed by default, it can be triggered using an EAL parameter(not added yet).

Regards,
A Vamsi

--
Gaëtan Rivet
6WIND

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-26  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-23 11:56 vattunuru
2019-09-25  6:41 ` Slava Ovsiienko
2019-09-25  9:07   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-09-26  4:15     ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru [this message]
2019-09-26  8:04       ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-09-26  9:39         ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-09-30 12:51           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1] eal: add manual probing option Gaetan Rivet
2019-09-30 17:51             ` Aaron Conole
2019-10-01  7:28               ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-10-01 12:57                 ` Aaron Conole
2019-09-30 18:53             ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-01  9:10               ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-10-01  9:49                 ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-01 14:09                   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-10-01 14:26                     ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-03  7:58             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Gaetan Rivet
2019-10-04 12:55               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Gaetan Rivet
2019-10-07  1:27                 ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-10-23  8:44                   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-10-25 11:59                 ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-25 12:50                   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-10-25 13:24                     ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-25 14:41                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Gaetan Rivet
2019-10-25 15:01                   ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-25 15:46                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] " Gaetan Rivet
2019-10-25 15:51                     ` Jerin Jacob
2020-01-22 16:51                     ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2020-01-23  9:20                       ` Gaetan Rivet
2020-01-23  9:58                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7] " Gaetan Rivet
2020-02-03  5:16                       ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2020-02-03 22:21                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-04 10:03                           ` Gaetan Rivet
2020-02-04 11:07                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-04 12:43                               ` Gaetan Rivet
2020-02-04 15:06                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-04 16:02                                   ` Gaetan Rivet
2020-02-10 14:51                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2020-02-10 15:27                                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-10 16:33                                         ` Jerin Jacob
2020-04-03  3:30                                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] [v1 1/1] examples/l2fwd: add cmdline option for forwarding port info vattunuru
2020-04-03 12:51                                             ` Andrzej Ostruszka [C]
2020-04-05  3:49                                               ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2020-04-05  3:52                                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] [v2 " vattunuru
2020-04-06  9:32                                               ` Andrzej Ostruszka [C]
2020-04-26 21:19                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-04-27  7:59                                               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " pbhagavatula
2020-04-27  9:19                                                 ` Sunil Kumar Kori
2020-04-27  9:36                                                   ` Andrzej Ostruszka [C]
2020-04-27 10:14                                                     ` Sunil Kumar Kori
2020-04-27 16:38                                                   ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2020-04-27 16:49                                                     ` Sunil Kumar Kori
2020-04-27 18:31                                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " pbhagavatula
2020-04-28  5:54                                                   ` Sunil Kumar Kori
2020-05-01 14:00                                                   ` Varghese, Vipin
2020-05-01 15:14                                                     ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2020-05-02  4:34                                                       ` Varghese, Vipin
2020-05-11  0:23                                                         ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2020-05-24 16:13                                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-05-25  9:29                                                             ` Bruce Richardson
2020-07-04 13:36                                                               ` Jerin Jacob
2020-07-05 12:23                                                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-04-04 16:34                                           ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] Re: [PATCH v7] eal: add manual probing option Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2023-06-14 19:33                       ` [dpdk-dev] " Stephen Hemminger
2023-06-26 16:12                         ` Gaëtan Rivet

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