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From: Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage <wathsala.vithanage@arm.com>
To: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"drc@linux.ibm.com" <drc@linux.ibm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 3/4] ring: fix potential sync issue between head and tail values
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 22:03:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <PAWPR08MB8909895DF398ACB52C8D66719F99A@PAWPR08MB8909.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250521111432.207936-4-konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>

Hi Konstanin,

In rte_ring the store-release on tail update guarantees that CAS
won't get reordered with the store-released of the tail update.

So, the sequence of events would look like this (combined view
of head and tail update)

Releaxed-load(new_head,  N)                              ----------------> (A)
Relaxed-CAS(d->head, new_head, old_head)   ----------------> (B)
Store-release-store(d->tail, new_head)             ----------------> (C)                                               

If we look at address dependencies, then...

(B) depends on (A) due to new_head address dependency.
(C) depends on (A) due to new_head address dependency.

So, dependency graph looks like this
       (A)
    /       \
   v        v
 (B)     (C)

There is no implicit dependence between (B) and (C), I think 
this is the issue you are brining up. 
Even though there is no dependence between the two, 
the store-release of (C) ensures that (B) won't drop below it.
Therefore, the above graph can be turned into an ordered
sequence as shown below..

(A) -> (B) -> (C)

I haven't looked at the so-ring yet. Could it be possible that the
issue is due to something else introduced in that code?

Thanks,

--wathsala

> This patch aims several purposes:
> - provide an alternative (and I think a better) way to fix the
>   issue discussed in previous patch:
>   "ring/soring: fix synchronization issue between head and tail values"
> - make sure that such problem wouldn’t happen within other usages of
>   __rte_ring_headtail_move_head() – both current rte_ring
>   implementation and possible future use-cases.
> - step towards unification of move_head() implementations and
>   removing rte_ring_generic_pvt.h
> It uses Acquire-Release memory ordering for CAS operation in move_head().
> That guarantees that corresponding ‘tail’ updates will be visible before current
> ‘head’ is updated.
> As I said before: I think that in theory the problem described in previous patch
> might happen with our conventional rte_ring too (when
> RTE_USE_C11_MEM_MODEL enabled).
> But, so far I didn’t manage to reproduce it in reality.
> For that reason and also because it touches a critical rte_ring code-path, I put
> these changes into a separate patch. Expect all interested stakeholders to come-
> up with their comments and observations.
> Regarding performance impact – on my boxes both ring_perf_autotest and
> ring_stress_autotest – show a mixed set of results: some of them become few
> cycles faster, another few cycles slower.
> But so far, I didn’t notice any real degradations with that patch.
> 
> Fixes: b5458e2cc483 ("ring: introduce staged ordered ring")
> Fixes: 1cc363b8ce06 ("ring: introduce HTS ring mode")
> Fixes: e6ba4731c0f3 ("ring: introduce RTS ring mode")
> Fixes: 49594a63147a ("ring/c11: relax ordering for load and store of the head")
> 
> Signed-off-by: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>
> ---
>  lib/ring/rte_ring_c11_pvt.h      | 27 +++++++++++++++++----------
>  lib/ring/rte_ring_hts_elem_pvt.h |  6 ++++--  lib/ring/rte_ring_rts_elem_pvt.h
> |  6 ++++--
>  lib/ring/soring.c                |  5 -----
>  4 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/lib/ring/rte_ring_c11_pvt.h b/lib/ring/rte_ring_c11_pvt.h index
> 0845cd6dcf..6d1c46df9a 100644
> --- a/lib/ring/rte_ring_c11_pvt.h
> +++ b/lib/ring/rte_ring_c11_pvt.h
> @@ -77,20 +77,19 @@ __rte_ring_headtail_move_head(struct
> rte_ring_headtail *d,
>  	int success;
>  	unsigned int max = n;
> 
> +	/* Ensure the head is read before tail */
>  	*old_head = rte_atomic_load_explicit(&d->head,
> -			rte_memory_order_relaxed);
> +			rte_memory_order_acquire);
>  	do {
>  		/* Reset n to the initial burst count */
>  		n = max;
> 
> -		/* Ensure the head is read before tail */
> -		rte_atomic_thread_fence(rte_memory_order_acquire);
> -
> -		/* load-acquire synchronize with store-release of ht->tail
> -		 * in update_tail.
> +		/*
> +		 * Read s->tail value. Note that it will be loaded after
> +		 * d->head load, but before CAS operation for the d->head.
>  		 */
>  		stail = rte_atomic_load_explicit(&s->tail,
> -					rte_memory_order_acquire);
> +					rte_memory_order_relaxed);
> 
>  		/* The subtraction is done between two unsigned 32bits value
>  		 * (the result is always modulo 32 bits even if we have @@ -
> 112,11 +111,19 @@ __rte_ring_headtail_move_head(struct rte_ring_headtail
> *d,
>  			d->head = *new_head;
>  			success = 1;
>  		} else
> -			/* on failure, *old_head is updated */
> +			/*
> +			 * on failure, *old_head is updated.
> +			 * this CAS(ACQ_REL, ACQUIRE) serves as a hoist
> +			 * barrier to prevent:
> +			 *  - OOO reads of cons tail value
> +			 *  - OOO copy of elems from the ring
> +			 *  Also RELEASE guarantees that latest tail value
> +			 *  will become visible before the new head value.
> +			 */
>  			success =
> rte_atomic_compare_exchange_strong_explicit(
>  					&d->head, old_head, *new_head,
> -					rte_memory_order_relaxed,
> -					rte_memory_order_relaxed);
> +					rte_memory_order_acq_rel,
> +					rte_memory_order_acquire);
>  	} while (unlikely(success == 0));
>  	return n;
>  }
> diff --git a/lib/ring/rte_ring_hts_elem_pvt.h b/lib/ring/rte_ring_hts_elem_pvt.h
> index c59e5f6420..cc593433b9 100644
> --- a/lib/ring/rte_ring_hts_elem_pvt.h
> +++ b/lib/ring/rte_ring_hts_elem_pvt.h
> @@ -116,13 +116,15 @@ __rte_ring_hts_move_head(struct
> rte_ring_hts_headtail *d,
>  		np.pos.head = op.pos.head + n;
> 
>  	/*
> -	 * this CAS(ACQUIRE, ACQUIRE) serves as a hoist barrier to prevent:
> +	 * this CAS(ACQ_REL, ACQUIRE) serves as a hoist barrier to prevent:
>  	 *  - OOO reads of cons tail value
>  	 *  - OOO copy of elems from the ring
> +	 *   Also RELEASE guarantees that latest tail value
> +	 *   will become visible before the new head value.
>  	 */
>  	} while (rte_atomic_compare_exchange_strong_explicit(&d->ht.raw,
>  			(uint64_t *)(uintptr_t)&op.raw, np.raw,
> -			rte_memory_order_acquire,
> +			rte_memory_order_acq_rel,
>  			rte_memory_order_acquire) == 0);
> 
>  	*old_head = op.pos.head;
> diff --git a/lib/ring/rte_ring_rts_elem_pvt.h b/lib/ring/rte_ring_rts_elem_pvt.h
> index 509fa674fb..860b13cc61 100644
> --- a/lib/ring/rte_ring_rts_elem_pvt.h
> +++ b/lib/ring/rte_ring_rts_elem_pvt.h
> @@ -131,13 +131,15 @@ __rte_ring_rts_move_head(struct
> rte_ring_rts_headtail *d,
>  		nh.val.cnt = oh.val.cnt + 1;
> 
>  	/*
> -	 * this CAS(ACQUIRE, ACQUIRE) serves as a hoist barrier to prevent:
> +	 * this CAS(ACQ_REL, ACQUIRE) serves as a hoist barrier to prevent:
>  	 *  - OOO reads of cons tail value
>  	 *  - OOO copy of elems to the ring
> +	 *  Also RELEASE guarantees that latest tail value
> +	 *  will become visible before the new head value.
>  	 */
>  	} while (rte_atomic_compare_exchange_strong_explicit(&d->head.raw,
>  			(uint64_t *)(uintptr_t)&oh.raw, nh.raw,
> -			rte_memory_order_acquire,
> +			rte_memory_order_acq_rel,
>  			rte_memory_order_acquire) == 0);
> 
>  	*old_head = oh.val.pos;
> diff --git a/lib/ring/soring.c b/lib/ring/soring.c index 7bcbf35516..21a1a27e24
> 100644
> --- a/lib/ring/soring.c
> +++ b/lib/ring/soring.c
> @@ -123,8 +123,6 @@ __rte_soring_stage_finalize(struct
> soring_stage_headtail *sht, uint32_t stage,
>  	rte_atomic_store_explicit(&sht->tail.raw, ot.raw,
>  			rte_memory_order_release);
> 
> -	/* make sure that new tail value is visible */
> -	rte_atomic_thread_fence(rte_memory_order_release);
>  	return i;
>  }
> 
> @@ -219,9 +217,6 @@ __rte_soring_update_tail(struct __rte_ring_headtail
> *rht,
>  		/* unsupported mode, shouldn't be here */
>  		RTE_ASSERT(0);
>  	}
> -
> -	/* make sure that new tail value is visible */
> -	rte_atomic_thread_fence(rte_memory_order_release);
>  }
> 
>  static __rte_always_inline uint32_t
> --
> 2.43.0


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-22 22:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-21 11:14 [PATCH v1 0/4] ring: some fixes and improvements Konstantin Ananyev
2025-05-21 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] ring: introduce extra run-time checks Konstantin Ananyev
2025-05-21 12:14   ` Morten Brørup
2025-05-21 12:34     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2025-05-21 18:36       ` Morten Brørup
2025-05-21 19:38         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2025-05-21 22:02           ` Morten Brørup
2025-05-21 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] ring/soring: fix head-tail synchronization issue Konstantin Ananyev
2025-05-21 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] ring: fix potential sync issue between head and tail values Konstantin Ananyev
2025-05-21 20:26   ` Morten Brørup
2025-05-22 22:03   ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage [this message]
2025-05-21 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] config/x86: enable RTE_USE_C11_MEM_MODEL by default Konstantin Ananyev
2025-05-21 19:47   ` Morten Brørup

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