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From: Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>,
	"Jerin Jacob" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"Shijith Thotton" <sthotton@marvell.com>,
	"abdullah.sevincer@intel.com" <abdullah.sevincer@intel.com>,
	"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"sachin.saxena@oss.nxp.com" <sachin.saxena@oss.nxp.com>,
	"harry.van.haaren@intel.com" <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>,
	"mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	"liangma@liangbit.com" <liangma@liangbit.com>,
	"peter.mccarthy@intel.com" <peter.mccarthy@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [RFC 0/3] Introduce event prefetching
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 11:53:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR18MB4086A205B7DD6875A1ED3BF0DE9A2@PH0PR18MB4086.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <586afa56-d51d-47f2-abea-e9f23d9b90a5@lysator.liu.se>

> On 2024-09-10 10:31, pbhagavatula@marvell.com wrote:
> > From: Pavan Nikhilesh <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>
> >
> > Event prefetching improves scheduling performance by pre-scheduling
> events to
> > event ports when dequeues are issued. This series introduces various types
> and
> > levels of prefetching to the eventdev library.
> >
> 
> I would avoid to use the term "prefetch", since that word is used for
> manual (software) prefetching (preloading in ARM speak). In particular,
> since having the event device prefetch future event-related data may
> potentially also be interesting to do (i.e., to have an option to
> prefetch user-configurable lines in the buffer pointed to by a future
> event).
> 
> I suggest RTE_EVENT_DEV_PRESCHEDULE*.

Yeah, preschedule makes more sense in this context, I was too far into the RFC 
to make the change. I will make the change in the next version.
In fact OCTEON 10 already supports event data prefetching, I have a RFC for that in
the pipeline.

> 
> If you make prescheduling a hint, you don't need the capability flags,
> and no error handling. Much smaller API, less fuzz for the application.
> 

The hint part is in 3/3, it still has a capability flag attached to it so that 
application don’t crash if driver doesn’t implement the API i.e., ops is NULL.

We could add a NULL check for ops but since its fast path I am not sure.

> > Prefetching Types:
> >   * RTE_EVENT_DEV_PREFETCH_NONE: No prefetching.
> >   * RTE_EVENT_DEV_PREFETCH: Always issue a prefetch when dequeue is
> issued.
> >   * RTE_EVENT_DEV_PREFETCH_INTELLIGENT: Delay issuing prefetch until
> there
> >     are no forward progress constraints with the held flow contexts.
> >
> 
> Maybe RTE_EVENT_DEV_PREFETCH_ADAPTIVE is better. I suggest that being
> the default. In that case, for event devices which can't preschedule or
> which always (by design) have to preschedule, can continue doing what
> they are doing and still calling this "adaptive".
> 

Adaptive sounds good. I will make the change next version.

I think the driver layer can fix up if application requests to disable a preschedule
type that It's already doing and can't be disabled.
But claiming prefetch capability when its not supported might not be a good idea.

In the end the idea is to give the application fine grained control over
prescheduling. As from what we have seen customers have wanted these 
fine grained controls over pre-scheduling.

> RTE_EVENT_DEV_PREFETCH_AUTO would also work.
> 
> Setting aside the complexity issue, prescheduling hints or configuration
> seems like a valuable feature to include in the Eventdev API.
> 
> > Prefetching Levels:
> >   * Event Device Level Prefetch: Prefetching can be enabled or disabled at the
> >     event device during configuration. Event devices can indicate prefetching
> >     capabilities using `RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_EVENT_PREFETCH` and
> >    `RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_EVENT_INTELLIGENT_PREFETCH` via the event
> device info
> >    function `info.event_dev_cap`.
> >   * Event Port Level Prefetch: Prefetching can be selectively enabled or
> disabled
> >     at the event port during runtime. Event devices can indicate this capability
> >     using `RTE_EVENT_PORT_CAP_EVENT_PER_PORT_PREFETCH` via the
> event device info
> >     function `info.event_port_cap`.
> >   * Application Controlled Prefetch Hint: Applications can provide hints to the
> >     event device to start prefetching events using the new API
> >     `rte_event_port_prefetch`. Event devices can indicate this capabilities using
> >     `RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_SW_PREFETCH` via the event device info function
> >     `info.event_dev_cap`.
> >
> > The rte_event_dequeue_burst operation initiates the prefetch operation,
> which
> > completes in parallel without affecting the dequeued event flow context and
> > dequeue latency. On the next dequeue operation, the prefetched events are
> > dequeued, and prefetch is initiated again.
> >
> > In the case of application-controlled prefetch hints, the currently held flow
> > contexts, if any, are not affected by the prefetch operation. On the next
> > dequeue operation, the prefetched events are returned, but prefetch is not
> > initiated again until the application provides the hint again. If prefetching
> > is already enabled at the event device level or event port level,
> > the hint is ignored.
> >
> > Pavan Nikhilesh (3):
> >    eventdev: introduce event prefetching
> >    eventdev: allow event ports to modified prefetches
> >    eventdev: add SW event prefetch hint
> >
> >   app/test/test_eventdev.c                    | 113 +++++++++++++++
> >   doc/guides/prog_guide/eventdev/eventdev.rst |  42 ++++++
> >   lib/eventdev/eventdev_pmd.h                 |   4 +
> >   lib/eventdev/eventdev_private.c             |  19 +++
> >   lib/eventdev/eventdev_trace_points.c        |   6 +
> >   lib/eventdev/rte_eventdev.h                 | 152 ++++++++++++++++++++
> >   lib/eventdev/rte_eventdev_core.h            |   9 ++
> >   lib/eventdev/rte_eventdev_trace_fp.h        |  19 ++-
> >   lib/eventdev/version.map                    |   6 +
> >   9 files changed, 369 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > --
> > 2.46.0

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-10 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-10  8:31 pbhagavatula
2024-09-10  8:31 ` [RFC 1/3] eventdev: introduce " pbhagavatula
2024-09-10  8:31 ` [RFC 2/3] eventdev: allow event ports to modified prefetches pbhagavatula
2024-09-10  8:31 ` [RFC 3/3] eventdev: add SW event prefetch hint pbhagavatula
2024-09-10  9:08 ` [RFC 0/3] Introduce event prefetching Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 11:53   ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula [this message]
2024-09-17  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Introduce event pre-scheduling pbhagavatula
2024-09-17  7:11   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] eventdev: introduce " pbhagavatula
2024-09-18 22:38     ` Pathak, Pravin
2024-09-19 13:13       ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2024-09-17  7:11   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] eventdev: add event port pre-schedule modify pbhagavatula
2024-09-17  7:11   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] eventdev: add SW event preschedule hint pbhagavatula

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