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From: Akhil Goyal <akhil.goyal@nxp.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"Smoczynski, MarcinX" <marcinx.smoczynski@intel.com>,
	"anoobj@marvell.com" <anoobj@marvell.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Iremonger, Bernard" <bernard.iremonger@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session feature
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:33:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VE1PR04MB663949111557D2E0964748C7E6930@VE1PR04MB6639.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772580191975B26@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com>

Hi Konstantin,
> 
> Hi Akhil,
> 
> > >
> > > Inline processing is limited to a specified subset of traffic. It is
> > > often unable to handle more complicated situations, such as fragmented
> > > traffic. When using inline processing such traffic is dropped.
> > >
> > > Introduce fallback session for inline processing allowing processing
> > > packets that normally would be dropped. A fallback session is
> > > configured by adding 'fallback' keyword with 'lookaside-none' or
> > > 'lookaside-protocol' parameter to an SA configuration.
> > >
> > > Using IPsec anti-replay window or ESN feature with fallback session is
> > > not yet supported when primary session is of type
> > > 'inline-protocol-offload' or fallback session is 'lookaside-protocol'
> > > because SA sequence number is not synchronized between software and
> > > hardware sessions. Fallback sessions are also limited to ingress IPsec
> > > traffic.
> > >
> > > Fallback session feature is not available in the legacy mode.
> > >
> > I started looking this patch, but some initial thoughts looking at the patch
> description.
> >
> > When you say a fallback session will be a lookaside none or lookaside protocol,
> > the packet will be processed asynchronously and might as well reorder.
> 
> Yes, we documented it as one of limitations.
> Though as I already mentioned for some use-cases some reordering it is
> acceptable.

Which usecases allow reordering. I think most stacks have replay window of less than 256/128 frames.
> 
>  > The best possible solution for this would be the synchronous API which are in
> talks
> 
> Agree, that would be a way to avoid reordering, but it is not there yet.
> 
> > in another patchset or use a SW PMD(eg. Openssl etc.) session and wait till you
> get the packet dequeued.
> > So effectively async APIs will be used to behave synchronously.
> > You can not use hardware PMD session as it will perform very badly for
> fallback packets
> > Because you have to wait till the packet is not getting dequeued back.
> 
> We don't plan to support that model because of great performance penalty you
> mentioned.

So what is currently supported with this patchset.
- cpu crypto is not there yet.
- SW PMD you are not supporting that model.

> 
> >
> > Having said that, you won't find a device or a scenario where you can use
> > Inline crypto as primary and lookaside proto as fallback.
> > It can only be like inline crypto as primary and lookaside none as fallback.
> 
> Yes, correct.
> I thought that we already removed lookaside-proto from supported types.
> If we didn't - will certainly do that.
> 
> >
> > BTW, I am ok with Patch 1/4 and 3/4. If no objections from the community, I
> can pick those.
> 
> Great to hear.
> What obstacles do you see with others two?
I believe there are some discussion going on between you and Anoob.


> Konstantin
> 
> >
> > -Akhil
> >
> > > Acked-by: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> > > Tested-by: Bernard Iremonger <bernard.iremonger@intel.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Marcin Smoczynski <marcinx.smoczynski@intel.com>
> > > ---


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-15 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-14 20:48 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/2] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session Marcin Smoczynski
2019-08-14 20:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/2] examples/ipsec-secgw: ipsec_sa structure cleanup Marcin Smoczynski
2019-08-14 20:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 2/2] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session feature Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-04 14:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-04 14:16   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] examples/ipsec-secgw: ipsec_sa structure cleanup Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-04 14:16   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session feature Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-04 14:16   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] examples/ipsec-secgw: add offload fallback tests Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-18  6:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session Anoob Joseph
2019-09-18  8:46     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-18 11:40       ` Anoob Joseph
2019-09-18 22:19         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-19  2:50           ` Anoob Joseph
2019-09-19  7:33             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-19 10:53               ` Anoob Joseph
2019-09-23 11:44   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] " Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-23 11:44     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] examples/ipsec-secgw: ipsec_sa structure cleanup Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-23 16:47       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-23 11:44     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/3] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session feature Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-23 16:49       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-23 11:44     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/3] examples/ipsec-secgw: add offload fallback tests Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-23 16:50       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-23 12:51     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] add fallback session Smoczynski, MarcinX
2019-09-26  9:04     ` Anoob Joseph
2019-09-26 12:38       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-29 14:29         ` Anoob Joseph
2019-09-30 13:31           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-02 10:14             ` Anoob Joseph
2019-10-03 14:46               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-09 15:36                 ` Anoob Joseph
2019-10-10 10:55                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-13 12:47                     ` Anoob Joseph
2019-10-16 12:02                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-16 13:36                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-27  9:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] " Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-27  9:10       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: ipsec_sa structure cleanup Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-27  9:10       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session feature Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-27  9:10       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add frag TTL cmdline option Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-27  9:10       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add offload fallback tests Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-27 15:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] add fallback session Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-27 15:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: ipsec_sa structure cleanup Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-02 15:43           ` Nicolau, Radu
2019-10-03 16:35           ` Iremonger, Bernard
2019-09-27 15:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session feature Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-29 17:03           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-30  9:13             ` Smoczynski, MarcinX
2019-10-03 16:36           ` Iremonger, Bernard
2019-09-27 15:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add frag TTL cmdline option Marcin Smoczynski
2019-09-30 10:16           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-27 15:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add offload fallback tests Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-03 16:46           ` Iremonger, Bernard
2019-10-07 13:02         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] add fallback session Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-07 13:02           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: sa structure cleanup Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-07 13:02           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session feature Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-11 14:40             ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-11 15:06               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-15 14:33                 ` Akhil Goyal [this message]
2019-10-16 10:37                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-07 13:02           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add frag TTL cmdline option Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-07 13:02           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add offload fallback tests Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-14 13:48           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/4] add fallback session Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-14 13:48             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: sa structure cleanup Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-14 13:48             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add fallback session feature Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-14 13:48             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add frag TTL cmdline option Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-14 13:48             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/4] examples/ipsec-secgw: add offload fallback tests Marcin Smoczynski
2019-10-21 12:29             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/4] add fallback session Mcnamara, John
2019-10-21 12:32               ` Akhil Goyal
2019-11-05 12:20             ` Akhil Goyal

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