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From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
To: "thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>,
	Ola Liljedahl <Ola.Liljedahl@arm.com>,
	"Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)" <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"pbhagavatula@marvell.com" <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>, "jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"bruce.richardson@intel.com" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] config: add arm neoverse N1 SDP configuration
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 03:24:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VE1PR08MB5149D48D30533FBBB17F005898660@VE1PR08MB5149.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2227745.9fKeDGhzLh@xps>

> 23/10/2019 07:03, Jerin Jacob:
> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:37 AM Honnappa Nagarahalli
> > <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2019-08-01 at 07:48 +0800, Gavin Hu wrote:
> > > > > > > Arm N1 SDP is an infrastructure segment development platform
> > > > > > > based on armv8.2-a Neoverse N1 CPU. For more information, refer
> to:
> > > > > > > https://community.arm.com/developer/tools-software/oss-platf
> > > > > > > orms/w
> > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > docs/440/neoverse-n1-sdp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Gavin Hu <gavin.hu@arm.com>
> > > > > > > Reviewed-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli
> > > > > > > <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
> > > > > > > Reviewed-by: Steve Capper <steve.capper@arm.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > +CONFIG_RTE_MACHINE="neoversen1"
> > > > > > This should probably be "n1sdp" as this is the name of the
> > > > > > platform that matches the below configuration.
> > > > > A clear definition of RTE_MACHINE is required. Jerin?
> > > >
> > > > I think, In the existing scheme of things, RTE_MACHINE defines,
> > > > where to take the MACHINE_CFLAGS mk/machine/xxxx/rte.vars.mk
> > > Ok, thank you
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Considering the fact that there will be a lot of reusable IPs(for
> > > > CPU) from ARM for  armv8, I think, it would make sense to
> > > > introduce  RTE_MICRO_ARCH to avoid a lot of code duplications and
> confusion.
> > > >
> > > > RTE_ARCH                             example: "x86" or "arm64"
> > > > RTE_MICRO_ARCH               example: "a72" or "thunderx3" - defines
> > > > mcpu and armv8 verion arch etc
> > > > RTE_MACHINE                       example: "bluefield" or "thunderx3"
> > > > - defines, number of cores, NUMA or not? etc
> > > Looking at mk/machine/ directory, looks like RTE_MACHINE seems to be
> defining micro-architecture for Intel. For ex: hsw, nhm, wsm. I see the same
> for Arm as well.
> > > Are you suggesting that we use RTE_MICRO_ARCH to pick mk/micro-
> arch/xxxx/rte.vars.mk? and RTE_MACHINE would pick
> mk/machine/xxxx/rte.vars.mk, but contain NUMA, #of cores etc?
> >
> > Yes for Make build. I think, it is deprecated soon, so we need a
> > similar solution for meson.
> 
> Yes I would prefer we clean the mess in Meson, instead of talking about the
> makefile system.
> And honestly, N1 is not needed in the legacy makefile system.
Unfortunately, most of the guys I talk to are still on makefile. When is makefile system getting removed?

> 
> So focusing on config/arm/meson.build,
> I think RTE_MACHINE is defined only for API compatibility with makefile.
> However, I doubt this value is used by any application.
> I think we can try to remove RTE_MACHINE from meson builds in DPDK 19.11,
> or use RTE_MACHINE as micro-arch (my preference).
'MACHINE' means different things to different people, which is the root cause of this discussion.
'MICRO-ARCH' has a very clear meaning. Do you see any problem going with MICRO-ARCH instead?

> 


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-28  3:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31 23:32 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] test/rcu: fix the compiling error for armv8.2 Gavin Hu
2019-07-31 23:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] config: add N1SDP configuration Gavin Hu
2019-07-31 23:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] add arm neoverse N1 SDP configuration Gavin Hu
2019-07-31 23:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] test/rcu: fix the compiling error for armv8.2 Gavin Hu
2019-07-31 23:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] config: add arm neoverse N1 SDP configuration Gavin Hu
2019-10-17 22:18   ` Ola Liljedahl
2019-10-18  5:12     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-18  7:23       ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-22 21:07         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-10-23  5:03           ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-27 21:22             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-28  3:24               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli [this message]
2019-10-28  8:36                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-29  5:47                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-11-11  5:06                     ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-07-31 23:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] config: add cortex-a76 configuration Gavin Hu
2019-11-11  5:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] add arm N1SDP and A76 configurations Gavin Hu
2019-11-20 22:41   ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-11-11  5:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] test/rcu: fix the compiling error for armv8.2 Gavin Hu
2019-11-20 22:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Thomas Monjalon
2019-11-21 11:23     ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-11-25  3:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] test/rcu: fix build for small number of cores Gavin Hu
2019-11-25 22:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Thomas Monjalon
2019-11-11  5:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/3] config: add arm neoverse N1 SDP configuration Gavin Hu
2019-11-12  4:23   ` Jerin Jacob
2019-11-14  7:55     ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-11-14  8:17   ` Jerin Jacob
2019-11-11  5:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/3] config: add cortex-a76 configuration Gavin Hu
2019-11-12  4:24   ` Jerin Jacob
2019-09-11 10:44 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] config: add arm neoverse N1 SDP configuration Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran

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