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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: RFC abstracting atomics
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 11:56:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y76j/2+kUU29l/qN@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D87651@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 11:23:07AM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2023 11.10
> > 
> > One additional point that just became clear to me when I started
> > thinking
> > about upping our DPDK C-standard-baseline. We need to be careful what
> > we
> > are considering when we up our C baseline. We can mandate a specific
> > compiler minimum and C version for compiling up DPDK itself, but I
> > think we
> > should not mandate that for the end applications.
> 
> Why not?
> 
> And do you consider this backwards compatibility a build time or run time requirement?
> 
> > 
> > That means that our header files, such as atomics, should not require
> > C99
> > or C11 even if the build of DPDK itself does. More specifically, even
> > if we
> > bump DPDK minimum to C11, we should still allow apps to build using
> > older
> > compiler settings.
> > 
> > Therefore, we probably need to maintain non-C11 atomics code paths in
> > headers beyond the point at which DPDK itself uses C11 as a code
> > baseline.
> 
> Am I misunderstanding your suggestion here: Code can be C11, but all APIs and header files must be C89?
> 
> Wouldn't that also prevent DPDK inline functions from being C11?
>
Yes, it would.

Now, perhaps we don't need to ensure that our headers have strict C89
compatibility, but I think we need to be very careful about mandating that
end-user apps use particular c standard settings when compiling their own
code.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-11 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-09 22:56 Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10  9:16 ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-10 11:45   ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-10 20:31     ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-11  7:45       ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-10 20:10   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-11 10:10     ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-11 10:23       ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-11 11:56         ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2023-01-11 12:46           ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-11 14:18             ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-11 15:07               ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-13 14:18                 ` Ben Magistro
2023-01-13 16:10                   ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-13 17:17                     ` Tyler Retzlaff

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