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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"Daniel Östman" <daniel.ostman@ericsson.com>,
	"Naga Harish K S V" <s.v.naga.harish.k@intel.com>,
	nils.wiberg@ericsson.com, gyumin.hwang@ericsson.com,
	changshik.lee@ericsson.com,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: rte_event_eth_tx_adapter_enqueue() short enqueue
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:07:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0b9XzRmcX0MLb1J@bricha3-mobl1.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24837b70-29fd-472a-aa1d-ab350d6ba5c8@lysator.liu.se>

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 11:53:50AM +0100, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
> On 2024-11-27 11:38, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 11:03:31AM +0100, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > > 
> > > Consider the following situation:
> > > 
> > > An application does
> > > 
> > > rte_event_eth_tx_adapter_enqueue()
> > > 
> > > and due to back-pressure or some other reason not all events/packets could
> > > be enqueued, and a count lower than the nb_events input parameter is
> > > returned.
> > > 
> > > The API says that "/../ the remaining events at the end of ev[] are not
> > > consumed and the caller has to take care of them /../".
> > > 
> > > May an event device rearrange the ev array so that any enqueue failures are
> > > put last in the ev array?
> > > 
> > > In other words: does the "at the end of ev[]" mean "at the end of ev[] as
> > > the call has completed", or is the event array supposed to be untouched, and
> > > thus the same events are at the end both before and after the call.
> > > 
> > > The ev array pointer is not const, so from that perspective it may be
> > > modified.
> > > 
> > > This situation may occur for example the bonding driver is used under the
> > > hood. The bonding driver does this kind of rearrangements on the ethdev
> > > level.
> > > 
> > 
> > Interesting question. I tend to think that we should not proclude this
> > reordering, as it should allow e.g  an eventdev which is short on space to
> > selectively enqueue only the high priority events.
> > 
> 
> Allowing reordering may be a little surprising to the user. At least it
> would be for me.
> 
> Other eventdev APIs enqueue do not allow this kind of reordering (with
> const-marked arrays).
> 

That is a good point. I forgot that the events are directly passed to the
enqueue functions rather than being passed as pointers, which could then be
reordered without modifying the underlying events.

> That said, I lean toward agreeing with you, since it will solve the ethdev
> tx_burst() mapping issue mentioned.
> 

If enabling this solves a real problem, then let's allow it, despite the
inconsistency in the APIs. Again, though, we need to to call this out in
the docs very prominently to avoid surprises.

Alternatively, do we want to add a separate API that explicitly allows
reordering, and update the existing API to have a const value parameter?
For drivers that don't implement the reordering they can just not provide
the reordering function and the non-reorder version can be used
transparently instead.

/Bruce

      reply	other threads:[~2024-11-27 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-27 10:03 Mattias Rönnblom
2024-11-27 10:38 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-11-27 10:53   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-11-27 11:07     ` Bruce Richardson [this message]

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