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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/7] buildtools/chkincs: use a staging directory for headers
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 10:22:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aNUJ3yFwNVpZdGzk@bricha3-mobl1.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJFAV8z7pnVm51HmfNDTr7=xsALPcKN9fRh7rVGgKgM2sWY8mQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 10:42:47AM +0200, David Marchand wrote:
> Hello Bruce,
> 
> On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 10:00, Bruce Richardson
> <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 07:25:34PM +0200, David Marchand wrote:
> > > A problem with the current headers check is that it relies on meson
> > > dependencies objects that come with their include_directories
> > > directives, and all of those point at the library / driver sources.
> > >
> > > This means that we won't detect a public header including a private
> > > (as in, not exported) header, or a driver only header.
> > >
> > > To address this issue, a staging directory is added and every header
> > > is copied to it.
> > >
> > > Drivers and library headers are staged to two different directories
> > > and the check is updated accordingly.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
> >
> > In general looks ok to me.  One small comment though - can we not have
> > "staging" as a top-level directory, but instead hide it inside the
> > buildtools directory, or even the chkincs directory? I dislike having
> > too many subdirectories directly off the root of the project,
> > especially ones purely for internal tooling.
> 
> Well, at first I was trying to change the whole build process iow rely
> only on the staging directory and remove all the include_directories:
> directives from the declare_dependency() objects.  Libraries and apps
> were ok, but there were a *lot* of complications with drivers (what a
> *huge mess*, especially for NXP drivers with "compat.h" includes, and
> Marvell drivers to a smaller extent).  I may retry in the future with
> some AI tool that will brute force this :-).
> 
One note of caution here: if doing this, you may want to consider using
run_command rather than a custom_target to copy the headers in order to
avoid potentially slowing down the build.

We used to do this copying of header files in the old make build system,
and one downside of it is that it means that the build of ".c" files in one
directory cannot be started until the copying of headers from the dependent
components are completed. The decision to use the include paths in the
dependency objects rather than copying the headers to a central location
was a deliberate decision when moving build system because it means that
when you run "ninja", every single .c file can be compiled to a .o file
in parallel, because all dependent headers are available at their original
locations. For most components, it's only the final link stage that has any
dependencies, the compile commands are all independent.

On the other hand, using run_command is not necessarily a good solution
either, because it means that all changes to the headers require a re-run
of meson, which will also be slower because of all the copying. :-(

Therefore, I'd tend towards keeping things as they are here, in order to
minimise reconfiguration and build times.

/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-25  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-27 11:26 [RFC 0/6] Add a stricter headers check David Marchand
2024-11-27 11:26 ` [RFC 1/6] baseband/acc: fix exported header David Marchand
2024-11-27 11:26 ` [RFC 2/6] drivers: drop export of driver headers David Marchand
2024-11-27 11:26 ` [RFC 3/6] eventdev: do not include driver header in DMA adapter David Marchand
2024-11-27 13:49   ` [EXTERNAL] " Amit Prakash Shukla
2024-11-27 11:26 ` [RFC 4/6] drivers: fix exported headers David Marchand
2024-11-27 11:26 ` [RFC 5/6] build: install indirect headers to a dedicated directory David Marchand
2024-11-27 11:42   ` Bruce Richardson
2024-12-10 13:36     ` David Marchand
2024-11-27 11:26 ` [RFC 6/6] buildtools: externally check exported headers David Marchand
2024-12-13 10:50 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Add a stricter headers check David Marchand
2024-12-13 10:50   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] baseband/acc: fix exported header David Marchand
2024-12-13 11:01     ` Bruce Richardson
2024-12-13 10:50   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] drivers: drop export of driver headers David Marchand
2024-12-13 11:03     ` Bruce Richardson
2024-12-16  9:13       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2024-12-13 10:50   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] eventdev: do not include driver header in DMA adapter David Marchand
2024-12-13 11:04     ` Bruce Richardson
2024-12-13 10:50   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] drivers: fix exported headers David Marchand
2024-12-13 11:14     ` Bruce Richardson
2024-12-13 13:46       ` David Marchand
2024-12-16  8:15         ` David Marchand
2024-12-13 17:10     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-12-13 10:50   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] build: install indirect headers to a dedicated directory David Marchand
2024-12-13 10:50   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] buildtools: externally check exported headers David Marchand
2024-12-13 11:27   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Add a stricter headers check Bruce Richardson
2024-12-13 13:38     ` David Marchand
2025-09-24 17:25 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] " David Marchand
2025-09-24 17:25   ` [PATCH v3 1/7] baseband/acc: fix exported header David Marchand
2025-09-24 17:25   ` [PATCH v3 2/7] drivers: drop export of driver headers David Marchand
2025-09-24 17:25   ` [PATCH v3 3/7] eventdev: do not include driver header in DMA adapter David Marchand
2025-09-24 17:25   ` [PATCH v3 4/7] gpudev: fix driver header for Windows David Marchand
2025-09-25  7:53     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-25  8:43       ` David Marchand
2025-09-24 17:25   ` [PATCH v3 5/7] drivers: fix some exported headers David Marchand
2025-09-24 17:25   ` [PATCH v3 6/7] buildtools/chkincs: use a staging directory for headers David Marchand
2025-09-25  8:00     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-25  8:42       ` David Marchand
2025-09-25  9:22         ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2025-09-25 10:29           ` David Marchand
2025-09-25 10:31             ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-25  9:31         ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-25 10:17           ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-25 10:22             ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-25 10:22           ` David Marchand
2025-09-25 10:31             ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-24 17:25   ` [PATCH v3 7/7] power: separate public and driver headers David Marchand
2025-09-25 12:31 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Add a stricter headers check David Marchand
2025-09-25 12:31   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] baseband/acc: fix exported header David Marchand
2025-09-25 12:31   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] drivers: drop export of driver headers David Marchand
2025-09-25 12:34     ` [EXTERNAL] " Akhil Goyal
2025-09-25 12:31   ` [PATCH v4 3/7] eventdev: do not include driver header in DMA adapter David Marchand
2025-09-25 12:31   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] gpudev: fix driver header for Windows David Marchand
2025-09-25 12:43     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-25 12:31   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] drivers: fix some exported headers David Marchand
2025-09-25 12:44     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-25 12:31   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] buildtools/chkincs: use a staging directory for headers David Marchand
2025-09-25 14:46     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-26  8:14       ` David Marchand
2025-09-26  9:06         ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-26  9:18           ` David Marchand
2025-09-25 12:31   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] power: separate public and driver headers David Marchand
2025-09-26 12:40 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] Add a stricter headers check David Marchand
2025-09-26 12:40   ` [PATCH v5 1/9] baseband/acc: fix exported header David Marchand
2025-09-26 12:40   ` [PATCH v5 2/9] drivers: drop export of driver headers David Marchand
2025-09-26 12:40   ` [PATCH v5 3/9] eventdev: do not include driver header in DMA adapter David Marchand
2025-09-26 12:40   ` [PATCH v5 4/9] gpudev: fix driver header for Windows David Marchand
2025-09-26 12:40   ` [PATCH v5 5/9] drivers: fix some exported headers David Marchand
2025-09-26 12:40   ` [PATCH v5 6/9] eal/arm: fix C++ build for 32-bit memcpy David Marchand
2025-09-26 13:01     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-26 19:55     ` Morten Brørup
2025-09-26 12:41   ` [PATCH v5 7/9] build: factorize headers installation David Marchand
2025-09-26 13:08     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-09-26 12:41   ` [PATCH v5 8/9] buildtools/chkincs: use a staging directory for headers David Marchand
2025-09-26 12:41   ` [PATCH v5 9/9] power: separate public and driver headers David Marchand

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